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Iceland proposes citizenship for Snowden

161 points by option_greek 13y ago

hlynur 13y ago
Just before adjourning Icelandic parliament for the summer, a vote was cast to put the bill before a parliament committee to be discussed further. That vote was defeated 24 to 33, 5 didn't vote and one was absent. Seems like this door has closed, at least for now. Can't find news articles on this, except this piece http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=is&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.dv.is%2Ffrettir%2F2013%2F7%2F4%2Fmeira-kjarkleysid-og-aumingjadomur%2F http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=is&tl=en&js=n&prev=... Also discussed at https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5991203 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5991203
piqufoh 13y ago
> the idea received minimal support. Title here is slightly misleading...
- hlynur 13y ago
  It´s not the title so much as the reporting. A bill was indeed set before parliament to grant Snowden citizenship, but because it was put forward on the last day of parliament it didn't get voted on. Instead a vote on a parliament committee was made. The support of almost half of parliament is a little more than minimal.
  - fastball 13y ago
    Nope, title is misleading. Using "Iceland" implies a majority consensus among some part of the Icelandic population, whether it be a public poll or a group of politicians. In this case, the title should be more like "Icelandic Politician wants to give Snowden citizenship".
  - ownagefool 13y ago
    38.1% isn't really half, but considered the small amount it feels closer. Still 38.1% voting yes to something probably not in their interests, because they're nice guys, is still a pretty good result. At least it is when you the world we live in.
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hhariri 13y ago
Talk about wanting to make headlines.
tocomment 13y ago
You know Iceland only has a population of ~300,000. I've wondered if a few tens of thousands of hackers moved there, they could have a pretty significant effect on the government.
- thebooktocome 13y ago
  Unfortunately, Iceland has a very difficult immigration policy. That's how it's maintained its relative wealth and prosperity.
  - brianbreslin 13y ago
    what is the primary driver of Iceland's wealth? What is their principal industry(ies)?
    - vidar 13y ago
      Fish, geothermal energy, tourism, CCP.
      - brianbreslin 13y ago
        thx. what is CCP?
    - daveisrising 13y ago
      My knowledge of this only comes from Michael Lewis' book, Boomerang, but in there he writes that Iceland got wealthy when they figured out how to securitize their fishing industry. They also starting smelting aluminum.
      - panacea 13y ago
        >They also starting smelting aluminium. An energy intensive exercise made extremely affordable, because of very cheap geothermal energy sources.

161 points by option_greek 13y ago

Just before adjourning Icelandic parliament for the summer, a vote was cast to put the bill before a parliament committee to be discussed further. That vote was defeated 24 to 33, 5 didn't vote and one was absent. Seems like this door has closed, at least for now. Can't find news articles on this, except this piece http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=is&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.dv.is%2Ffrettir%2F2013%2F7%2F4%2Fmeira-kjarkleysid-og-aumingjadomur%2F http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=is&tl=en&js=n&prev=... Also discussed at https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5991203 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5991203

piqufoh 13y ago

> the idea received minimal support. Title here is slightly misleading...

hlynur 13y ago
It´s not the title so much as the reporting. A bill was indeed set before parliament to grant Snowden citizenship, but because it was put forward on the last day of parliament it didn't get voted on. Instead a vote on a parliament committee was made. The support of almost half of parliament is a little more than minimal.
- fastball 13y ago
  Nope, title is misleading. Using "Iceland" implies a majority consensus among some part of the Icelandic population, whether it be a public poll or a group of politicians. In this case, the title should be more like "Icelandic Politician wants to give Snowden citizenship".
- ownagefool 13y ago
  38.1% isn't really half, but considered the small amount it feels closer. Still 38.1% voting yes to something probably not in their interests, because they're nice guys, is still a pretty good result. At least it is when you the world we live in.

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hhariri 13y ago

Talk about wanting to make headlines.

tocomment 13y ago

You know Iceland only has a population of ~300,000. I've wondered if a few tens of thousands of hackers moved there, they could have a pretty significant effect on the government.

thebooktocome 13y ago
Unfortunately, Iceland has a very difficult immigration policy. That's how it's maintained its relative wealth and prosperity.
- brianbreslin 13y ago
  what is the primary driver of Iceland's wealth? What is their principal industry(ies)?
  - vidar 13y ago
    Fish, geothermal energy, tourism, CCP.
    - brianbreslin 13y ago
      thx. what is CCP?
  - daveisrising 13y ago
    My knowledge of this only comes from Michael Lewis' book, Boomerang, but in there he writes that Iceland got wealthy when they figured out how to securitize their fishing industry. They also starting smelting aluminum.
    - panacea 13y ago
      >They also starting smelting aluminium. An energy intensive exercise made extremely affordable, because of very cheap geothermal energy sources.