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Somehow I find it hard to believe that if it had been Zuckerberg or Larry Page or any other guy, this title would have been chosen.

by hzay 13y ago

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dangrossman 13y ago
Two minutes of Googling will find you plenty of writeups of companies with male CEOs on "shopping sprees". Have fun with the "intitle" operator, it's used there too.
tzs 13y ago
Steve Jobs: http://www.fastcompany.com/1563818/feisty-steve-jobs-ponders-40b-shopping-spree-apple-shareholder-meeting http://www.fastcompany.com/1563818/feisty-steve-jobs-ponders... http://seekingalpha.com/instablog/978263-tribbda/197291-the-steve-jobs-shopping-spree-that-isn-t http://seekingalpha.com/instablog/978263-tribbda/197291-the-... Bill Gates: http://www.businessweek.com/stories/1997-01-12/bill-gatess-quiet-shopping-spree http://www.businessweek.com/stories/1997-01-12/bill-gatess-q... Jeff Bezos: http://gawker.com/287019/jeff-bezos-restarts-amazons-shopping-spree http://gawker.com/287019/jeff-bezos-restarts-amazons-shoppin... Larry Page: http://www.businessinsider.com/the-google-investor-apr-12-2011-4 http://www.businessinsider.com/the-google-investor-apr-12-20... There are also plenty where a company is named rather than the CEO, but the CEO at the time is male. For example, HP: http://dealbook.nytimes.com/2010/09/13/h-p-s-pricey-shopping-spree/ http://dealbook.nytimes.com/2010/09/13/h-p-s-pricey-shopping... http://techcrunch.com/2010/09/13/hp-continues-shopping-spree-buys-security-software-company-arcsight-for-1-5-billion-in-cash/ http://techcrunch.com/2010/09/13/hp-continues-shopping-spree... http://markets.cbsnews.com/cbsnews/news/read/14673193/hp_continues_shopping_spree http://markets.cbsnews.com/cbsnews/news/read/14673193/hp_con... http://qz.com/29535/autonomy-is-just-the-latest-bad-egg-in-a-misguided-hp-shopping-spree/ http://qz.com/29535/autonomy-is-just-the-latest-bad-egg-in-a... http://www.forbes.com/sites/andygreenberg/2010/09/13/hp-acquiring-arcsight-in-ongoing-security-shopping-spree/ http://www.forbes.com/sites/andygreenberg/2010/09/13/hp-acqu... There are many more, for many companies.
dkrich 13y ago
People who write these types of comments do more to set back gender equality than anything written about the subjects themselves. If the subject of the story were a guy would the thought of sexism even cross your mind or would you just, ya know, evaluate the story on its merits?
- LaGrange 13y ago
  If the subject of the story were a guy would the thought of sexism even cross your mind No, because it wouldn't make any sense. Now, in this specific case the criticism turns out to be unfounded, but being suspicious of word choice is perfectly reasonable, especially considered that Mayer did face a lot of unfounded criticism that was clearly gender based. Even more so when the "lack of strategy" here smells like a ton of FUD. Lots of startups getting acqui-hired, for a company that wants to take a risk and seek a fundamental change. Even hiring Mayer herself seems like a part of that strategy.
- hzay 13y ago
  I was mistaken and there's no way to indicate that in the comment now, but your reply is way out of line and ironically a good example of harmful stereotyping ("people who write these type of comments"). Also, my comment had nothing to do with the story and everything to do with the title.
  - dkrich 13y ago
    Sorry that you feel that way, but since you made a comment which called into question the validity of the article and the character of the author without any evidence or apparent research to prove its validity, I think calling into question your assumptions and the potential harm they cause to be perfectly fair. It's not right for me to generalize, so I should have said "These types of comments..." but my point still stands.

Somehow I find it hard to believe that if it had been Zuckerberg or Larry Page or any other guy, this title would have been chosen.

by hzay 13y ago

Somehow I find it hard to believe that if it had been Zuckerberg or Larry Page or any other guy, this title would have been chosen.

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dangrossman 13y ago

Two minutes of Googling will find you plenty of writeups of companies with male CEOs on "shopping sprees". Have fun with the "intitle" operator, it's used there too.

tzs 13y ago

Steve Jobs: http://www.fastcompany.com/1563818/feisty-steve-jobs-ponders-40b-shopping-spree-apple-shareholder-meeting http://www.fastcompany.com/1563818/feisty-steve-jobs-ponders... http://seekingalpha.com/instablog/978263-tribbda/197291-the-steve-jobs-shopping-spree-that-isn-t http://seekingalpha.com/instablog/978263-tribbda/197291-the-... Bill Gates: http://www.businessweek.com/stories/1997-01-12/bill-gatess-quiet-shopping-spree http://www.businessweek.com/stories/1997-01-12/bill-gatess-q... Jeff Bezos: http://gawker.com/287019/jeff-bezos-restarts-amazons-shopping-spree http://gawker.com/287019/jeff-bezos-restarts-amazons-shoppin... Larry Page: http://www.businessinsider.com/the-google-investor-apr-12-2011-4 http://www.businessinsider.com/the-google-investor-apr-12-20... There are also plenty where a company is named rather than the CEO, but the CEO at the time is male. For example, HP: http://dealbook.nytimes.com/2010/09/13/h-p-s-pricey-shopping-spree/ http://dealbook.nytimes.com/2010/09/13/h-p-s-pricey-shopping... http://techcrunch.com/2010/09/13/hp-continues-shopping-spree-buys-security-software-company-arcsight-for-1-5-billion-in-cash/ http://techcrunch.com/2010/09/13/hp-continues-shopping-spree... http://markets.cbsnews.com/cbsnews/news/read/14673193/hp_continues_shopping_spree http://markets.cbsnews.com/cbsnews/news/read/14673193/hp_con... http://qz.com/29535/autonomy-is-just-the-latest-bad-egg-in-a-misguided-hp-shopping-spree/ http://qz.com/29535/autonomy-is-just-the-latest-bad-egg-in-a... http://www.forbes.com/sites/andygreenberg/2010/09/13/hp-acquiring-arcsight-in-ongoing-security-shopping-spree/ http://www.forbes.com/sites/andygreenberg/2010/09/13/hp-acqu... There are many more, for many companies.

dkrich 13y ago

People who write these types of comments do more to set back gender equality than anything written about the subjects themselves. If the subject of the story were a guy would the thought of sexism even cross your mind or would you just, ya know, evaluate the story on its merits?

LaGrange 13y ago
If the subject of the story were a guy would the thought of sexism even cross your mind No, because it wouldn't make any sense. Now, in this specific case the criticism turns out to be unfounded, but being suspicious of word choice is perfectly reasonable, especially considered that Mayer did face a lot of unfounded criticism that was clearly gender based. Even more so when the "lack of strategy" here smells like a ton of FUD. Lots of startups getting acqui-hired, for a company that wants to take a risk and seek a fundamental change. Even hiring Mayer herself seems like a part of that strategy.
hzay 13y ago
I was mistaken and there's no way to indicate that in the comment now, but your reply is way out of line and ironically a good example of harmful stereotyping ("people who write these type of comments"). Also, my comment had nothing to do with the story and everything to do with the title.
- dkrich 13y ago
  Sorry that you feel that way, but since you made a comment which called into question the validity of the article and the character of the author without any evidence or apparent research to prove its validity, I think calling into question your assumptions and the potential harm they cause to be perfectly fair. It's not right for me to generalize, so I should have said "These types of comments..." but my point still stands.