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While I agree with everything he's said, his assertion that people should learn HTML5/CSS, deploy with Node on a VPS, (etc) to "use the internet" really misses

While I agree with everything he's said, his assertion that people should learn HTML5/CSS, deploy with Node on a VPS, (etc) to "use the internet" really misses the point. Makers like us will always know these things. The problem is that 99% of people will never bother. How can they resist centralization when they are too busy being experts in other things to learn so much web tech? We need to find a way for those decentralized networks to be the cool ones. We need to get the mass on them, de facto. Before that we probably need the surveillance state to get scarier. And I mean a handful of very, very high profile cases. Or maybe we can bring it to everyone via a browser plugin that lets you know when you're content is likely to be flagged by admins/etc. How else can we popularize decentralized services? Edit: oops. I read both this and his "distributed services" post and just realized I'm replying to both.

javert 13y ago
> Before that we probably need the surveillance state to get scarier I don't know how it could get any scarier short of them starting to round people up, and when that happens, it'll be too late.
ownagefool 13y ago
I find his articles really hard to read, here are 5 simple reasons:- > Wordpress exists. You don't need to be a maker to use something like this, anyone with the motivation can. > It's faddish, the mention of nodeJS as a requirment has me rolling my eyes into my fucking brain. > Actually, most important content is decentralized. If facebook died tomorrow, there would be some value lost, but it'd be hardly the end of the internet. > "We're going distributed". Why? Because you woke up one morning and decided? Because you've gave it some thought? > He doesn't seem interested in what we'll lose when we're decentralized. Does he understand the drawbacks? There is some really good content on HN, loads of it, but this really isn't it and I'm not saying that because I disagree I think the internet should be a series of peer nodes like it was first designed to be. However, I don't think we need a self appointed spokes persons to achieve this, it's already there, and if you want to discuss decentralizing major services like facebook, I'd like to see, on a tech site, someone with a technical solution that attempts to mitigate what we'd lose.

javert 13y ago

> Before that we probably need the surveillance state to get scarier I don't know how it could get any scarier short of them starting to round people up, and when that happens, it'll be too late.

ownagefool 13y ago

I find his articles really hard to read, here are 5 simple reasons:- > Wordpress exists. You don't need to be a maker to use something like this, anyone with the motivation can. > It's faddish, the mention of nodeJS as a requirment has me rolling my eyes into my fucking brain. > Actually, most important content is decentralized. If facebook died tomorrow, there would be some value lost, but it'd be hardly the end of the internet. > "We're going distributed". Why? Because you woke up one morning and decided? Because you've gave it some thought? > He doesn't seem interested in what we'll lose when we're decentralized. Does he understand the drawbacks? There is some really good content on HN, loads of it, but this really isn't it and I'm not saying that because I disagree I think the internet should be a series of peer nodes like it was first designed to be. However, I don't think we need a self appointed spokes persons to achieve this, it's already there, and if you want to discuss decentralizing major services like facebook, I'd like to see, on a tech site, someone with a technical solution that attempts to mitigate what we'd lose.