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> to the one everyone fails at: Creating a "unified livingroom media experience" Indeed. What I wouldn't give to have simple media playback from USB storage i

by _pmf_ 13y ago

> to the one everyone fails at: Creating a "unified livingroom media experience" Indeed. What I wouldn't give to have simple media playback from USB storage instead of "unified livingroom media experience" on consoles ...

jiggy2011 13y ago
The Xbox 360 media player will play stuff of USB storage.
- engtech 13y ago
  xbox 360 media player was never able to handle mkv files (unless there's been an update in the 2 years that I've had my 360 powered down) There was also that xbox 360 dashboard update that downgraded the playback quality of avi files.
thejosh 13y ago
I used Boxee a while back when it was on the original AppleTV's, then before that way before the whole Boxee Box thing begun. It was very buggy, SMB shares always very slow no matter which computer the boxee client ran on. Now adays I run everything through Plex and couldn't be happier, it runs on Samsung TVs as well which is a bonus, as well as a lot of other devices (and computers).
antocv 13y ago
If you have a SmartTV you already have a simple media playback from any of your devices, and from usb storage its dumb easy just stick it in the tv... if you want the output to your smartphone then setup a dlna/upnp server somewhere and stick the usb storage into that. Run a minidlna server there, and thats about it, now the TV can browse and play all the things Ive pointed minidlna too, and I can control the TV using upnp apps on my phone, its a nice touchy interface with UPnPlay that can also render the content on the phone if Id like. A raspberry pi can run xbmc if you dont have a place/smallish-server where to run minidlna, and xbmc has a upnp-server, so you can mount your content over ftp/samba/http/upnp/nfs, or just plug your NAS into the raspberry. Different networks? No problem, bridge them or use VPN and set a route for multicast. EDIT: If anyone is interested I can write a blogpost about it as it wasnt long ago I tinkered with these setups. Especially IP multicasting was hairy.
- josteink 13y ago
  As someone who has an otherwise perfectly good TV but without any smart-TV addons (as I've understood are poor replacements for something like a Boxee), I'd love to see such a blog-post. Good media management is more than just accessing files though. It's building a library, indexing, organizing, etc. As far as I've seen UPnP solutions, this has always been a lacking. How have you handled this?
  - antocv 13y ago
    The building a library/organizing - minidlna has handled that well, it scanned through my music and exposes Albums/Artist/Genre listings, not only the folder browser, and searching also works good. For now. I am now looking to improve the quality of my music library so I am using beets to organize it right now, it corrects tags, fingerprint, deduplicate, fetch covers and so on. Its a tedious process because I do help it manually. Once its done, Ill use beetFs to expose the beets database of the collection on a new mountpoint, and thats where Ill point minidlna. That way beets wont need to change the tags on disk (screwing up the torrents hashes), or copy/move files around. But minidlna will get served the corrected tags through beetFs. Its quite nice to just easily access huge music library on smartphone, good search and nice browsing, then download whatever artists or albums I like to the phone, or listen to, or select my brothers TV to play them on when Im at his house. Basically all of this functionality is in UPnP-av/DLNA with implementation by minidlna and UPnPlay. Ive yet to setup a nice gallery/picture thing. Ill get back to you once Ive made the blogpost (any suggestion where I can just write this and leave it there, github?), I made it sound easy, but I see thats because Ive spent the last few days playing with these stuff, have been trying out mediatomb, ushare and coherence too as servers, but as you say I wasnt pleased with their indexing.
- inthewind 13y ago
  Well you make it sound so easy! An issue with the technology is trying to keep up with it. I have a basic HD tv (a samsung), it's not smart. It will play media from USB, and it plays a lot of formats - only it suffers with a few annoying quirks. I have sizing issues with the picture, and the media player doesn't let me turn the screen off. It almost works. DVD playback is pretty poor too with a separate LG player. I don't want to run a separate media centre machine or NAS, all I want to do, is plug a drive into the TV. I don't even care for the IMDB stuff. Just the basics, easily locate file quickly, play it, play it from where I last paused etc. A Pi sounds promising - though I wonder how good the actual picture would be. Everytime I've tried XBMC or some such on a computer, the picture never appears that smooth. Not everyone has a smart phone either. What I'd like is something like a Tablet, with HDMI out, and an SD card, and/or USB port - that I could quickly attach to the TV. The basics feel neglected.

by _pmf_ 13y ago

jiggy2011 13y ago

The Xbox 360 media player will play stuff of USB storage.

engtech 13y ago
xbox 360 media player was never able to handle mkv files (unless there's been an update in the 2 years that I've had my 360 powered down) There was also that xbox 360 dashboard update that downgraded the playback quality of avi files.

thejosh 13y ago

I used Boxee a while back when it was on the original AppleTV's, then before that way before the whole Boxee Box thing begun. It was very buggy, SMB shares always very slow no matter which computer the boxee client ran on. Now adays I run everything through Plex and couldn't be happier, it runs on Samsung TVs as well which is a bonus, as well as a lot of other devices (and computers).

antocv 13y ago

If you have a SmartTV you already have a simple media playback from any of your devices, and from usb storage its dumb easy just stick it in the tv... if you want the output to your smartphone then setup a dlna/upnp server somewhere and stick the usb storage into that. Run a minidlna server there, and thats about it, now the TV can browse and play all the things Ive pointed minidlna too, and I can control the TV using upnp apps on my phone, its a nice touchy interface with UPnPlay that can also render the content on the phone if Id like. A raspberry pi can run xbmc if you dont have a place/smallish-server where to run minidlna, and xbmc has a upnp-server, so you can mount your content over ftp/samba/http/upnp/nfs, or just plug your NAS into the raspberry. Different networks? No problem, bridge them or use VPN and set a route for multicast. EDIT: If anyone is interested I can write a blogpost about it as it wasnt long ago I tinkered with these setups. Especially IP multicasting was hairy.

josteink 13y ago
As someone who has an otherwise perfectly good TV but without any smart-TV addons (as I've understood are poor replacements for something like a Boxee), I'd love to see such a blog-post. Good media management is more than just accessing files though. It's building a library, indexing, organizing, etc. As far as I've seen UPnP solutions, this has always been a lacking. How have you handled this?
- antocv 13y ago
  The building a library/organizing - minidlna has handled that well, it scanned through my music and exposes Albums/Artist/Genre listings, not only the folder browser, and searching also works good. For now. I am now looking to improve the quality of my music library so I am using beets to organize it right now, it corrects tags, fingerprint, deduplicate, fetch covers and so on. Its a tedious process because I do help it manually. Once its done, Ill use beetFs to expose the beets database of the collection on a new mountpoint, and thats where Ill point minidlna. That way beets wont need to change the tags on disk (screwing up the torrents hashes), or copy/move files around. But minidlna will get served the corrected tags through beetFs. Its quite nice to just easily access huge music library on smartphone, good search and nice browsing, then download whatever artists or albums I like to the phone, or listen to, or select my brothers TV to play them on when Im at his house. Basically all of this functionality is in UPnP-av/DLNA with implementation by minidlna and UPnPlay. Ive yet to setup a nice gallery/picture thing. Ill get back to you once Ive made the blogpost (any suggestion where I can just write this and leave it there, github?), I made it sound easy, but I see thats because Ive spent the last few days playing with these stuff, have been trying out mediatomb, ushare and coherence too as servers, but as you say I wasnt pleased with their indexing.
inthewind 13y ago
Well you make it sound so easy! An issue with the technology is trying to keep up with it. I have a basic HD tv (a samsung), it's not smart. It will play media from USB, and it plays a lot of formats - only it suffers with a few annoying quirks. I have sizing issues with the picture, and the media player doesn't let me turn the screen off. It almost works. DVD playback is pretty poor too with a separate LG player. I don't want to run a separate media centre machine or NAS, all I want to do, is plug a drive into the TV. I don't even care for the IMDB stuff. Just the basics, easily locate file quickly, play it, play it from where I last paused etc. A Pi sounds promising - though I wonder how good the actual picture would be. Everytime I've tried XBMC or some such on a computer, the picture never appears that smooth. Not everyone has a smart phone either. What I'd like is something like a Tablet, with HDMI out, and an SD card, and/or USB port - that I could quickly attach to the TV. The basics feel neglected.