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New cheap VPS provider, based in Sweden
- egeozcan 13y agoLooks like a good offer. My Swedish is a bit rusty, though. They wouldn't happen to have an English or a German site, would they?
- ttjervaag 13y agoMy Swedish is good enough to be able to sign up for a 1 month free trial, but alas: Sorry. :( Thank you for your interest in Cloud Royale! But unfortunately we are not available outside of Sweden. If you believe this is an error, please contact us and we'll look into it. It's a shame, because it does look like a good offer.
- jgabor 13y agoThanks! Glad to hear you like the offer. Unfortunately we don't have a English or German site yet. But we do plan to launch our English site later this year. I hope we'll see you then! :) /Jonathan Gabor, Product Manager at Cloud Royale
- egeozcan 13y agoThis is great. Do you have a waiting list so that we get informed when you start allowing international registrations?
- jgabor 13y agoWe just put one up! You can find it here: https://cloudroyale.se/sorry.php https://cloudroyale.se/sorry.php
- ForFreedom 13y agoWhat difference does it make if the user is outside Sweden?
- toyg 13y agoYou have to deal with taxation. As a minimum, for EU customers they'd have to extend the same VAT arrangements they give to Swedes, whereas any non-EU customer would get different tariffs, and you have to make sure it's all accounted properly. Then they'd have to look at other laws and regulations for cross-border businesses, and would likely have to pay higher premiums for their insurance against lawsuits for hosting "bad" content. Also they'd need a lawyer who understands all this, rather than your average small-time small-biz paper monkey. EDIT: and of course, you have to support international payments through VISA or equivalent on your website, which is a pain in itself.
- ForFreedom 13y agoFrom what I understand, if the server is in Sweden the laws of Sweden are followed. For the EU taxation there is no tax if the customer is outside EU, this can be resolved by CC address. How are the payments going through now, is it not CC?
- toyg 13y ago>For the EU taxation there is no tax if the customer is outside EU, this can be resolved by CC address. Yeah, what I'm saying is that their payment processor must then understand three different categories of customers (Swedish, EU, non-EU). You'd be surprised how many small operations struggle to just put in place a decent payment/accounting platform ("It's just a few sums, I'll code it in an afternoon, no need to buy $expensiveButComprehensiveAccountingSoftware !"...). And of course, currency conversion between Kroner and €, £, $... You'd also be surprised by how many regulations we have in Europe covering money transfers -- internal credit cards, external credit cards (yes, often they're different things), debit cards, prepaid cards, all regulated by laws that vary State by State, and all handled by banks through byzantine merchant contracts. I'm not 100% familiar with the Swedish system, but I do see the difficulties in handling foreign payments.
- scotthtaylor 13y agoWhy put this on HN if there is no English version?
- nicholassmith 13y agoI'd assume because Hacker News is pretty geographically diverse.
- SingAlong 13y agoOut of curiosity, what does the "tim" in "0.18 kr/tim" translate to in English? I'm just trying to calculate how much it amounts to per month.
- spaam 13y agohour. "tim" is short for "timme".
- KimJongLil 13y ago0.18 kr == 0.03 USD ~ 22 USD per month
- anderspetersson 13y agohour == timme tim is short for timme.
- hising 13y agoIt is price per hour in SEK. 0.18 SEK per hour is 129 SEK per month, which translates to ~ $19 per month in USD with the current exchange rate (according to '129,6 sek to usd' in Google)
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- belorn 13y agoDo they have IPv6?
- paskakapu 13y agoDo you support NetBSD?
- jgabor 13y agoUnfortunately no. But if the demand is there, we will definitely consider it. And I know it's not exactly the same, but FreeBSD is on it's way…
- iddqd 13y agoI have a really hard time taking hosting providers that claim 100% uptime seriously.
- dave1010uk 13y agoIs this newsworthy? More cheap VPS providers here if you're interested: http://www.lowendbox.com/ http://www.lowendbox.com/
- pella 13y agoor http://serverbear.com/compare/vps http://serverbear.com/compare/vps
- p4bl0 13y agoIf I understand correctly this is a VPS offer which is $22/month. It's not even cheap at all. I have a real dedicated server for less than that. Also, their offer is not available outside of Sweden. And they don't have an English version of the website. This is not news, it's advertisement, and it's badly targeted. Flagged.
- Matti 13y agoIt's not immediately obvious but they are an off-shoot of FS Data -- a fairly well-known (and old) Swedish hosting provider. It is in other words unlikely to be a "fly-by operation" in a niche where new companies pop-up very frequently.