4 ms·

Why should we be polite to a person who endangered people who relied on his expertise? He had one task (that he chose), that task was extremely sensitive and ha

by rorrr2 13y ago

Why should we be polite to a person who endangered people who relied on his expertise? He had one task (that he chose), that task was extremely sensitive and had to be implemented correctly. He failed. Shaming and ridicule is the least he deserves.

pfortuny 13y ago
Well I hope you shall never make a mistake. Search for "Patriot missile bug" and think about it. Just a suggestion.
- rorrr2 13y ago
  1) If I ever make a mistake of that magnitude, I will accept any level of criticism, in any way shape or form. 2) I will never implement a crypto system that lives depend on without fully understanding it.
  - pfortuny 13y ago
    Honestly, it does not matter whether YOU accept that level of criticism. It is not about the perpetrator, it is about the environment. I am not complaining for myself, really. And, on the other hand, I would suggest not being so sure about the future.
    - DanBC 13y ago
      I agree that criticism should be constructive, and that it never needs to be toxic. I agree that "we" should be working to reduce toxic environments. When you release a crypto product you will receive a lot of criticism. You need to be humble with the release, and humble with the acceptance of criticism, because the people giving that criticism tend to be very good at what they do and thus their time and knowledge is valuable. So part of the problem is a toxic environment, but part of the problem is certainly the unhelpful attitude of people working on cryptocat. I guess there's something in here about defensiveness and accepting criticism and cognitive dissonance.
      - pfortuny 13y ago
        I totally agree with you. As I said above, yours are examples of clear, detailed, polite, constructive and useful criticism: one does not need to say so and so is a good man but has made this tiny mistake in order to be polite: just distinguish between facts, actions and persons. So thanks for your efforts and keep up the good job.

by rorrr2 13y ago

pfortuny 13y ago

Well I hope you shall never make a mistake. Search for "Patriot missile bug" and think about it. Just a suggestion.

rorrr2 13y ago
1) If I ever make a mistake of that magnitude, I will accept any level of criticism, in any way shape or form. 2) I will never implement a crypto system that lives depend on without fully understanding it.
- pfortuny 13y ago
  Honestly, it does not matter whether YOU accept that level of criticism. It is not about the perpetrator, it is about the environment. I am not complaining for myself, really. And, on the other hand, I would suggest not being so sure about the future.
  - DanBC 13y ago
    I agree that criticism should be constructive, and that it never needs to be toxic. I agree that "we" should be working to reduce toxic environments. When you release a crypto product you will receive a lot of criticism. You need to be humble with the release, and humble with the acceptance of criticism, because the people giving that criticism tend to be very good at what they do and thus their time and knowledge is valuable. So part of the problem is a toxic environment, but part of the problem is certainly the unhelpful attitude of people working on cryptocat. I guess there's something in here about defensiveness and accepting criticism and cognitive dissonance.
    - pfortuny 13y ago
      I totally agree with you. As I said above, yours are examples of clear, detailed, polite, constructive and useful criticism: one does not need to say so and so is a good man but has made this tiny mistake in order to be polite: just distinguish between facts, actions and persons. So thanks for your efforts and keep up the good job.