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But it's not your browser. Some kind people have created one for you. Should they not explore potential avenues of revenue? (what if advertisers pay browser mak

by namank 13y ago

But it's not your browser. Some kind people have created one for you. Should they not explore potential avenues of revenue? (what if advertisers pay browser makers 1% of their earnings via this cookie tracking thing?)

hnha 13y ago
Then I would simply use another browser that does not spy on its users. Thankfully we can install any software on our computers and even write our own.
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icebraining 13y ago
But it's not your browser. Some kind people have created one for you. Should they not explore potential avenues of revenue? They should only explore avenues of revenue that don't depend on spying on users. Offering a browser for free doesn't excuse such actions.
- namank 13y ago
  I agree. But for the sake of argument, why? "Big data" is huge an expected to grow exponentially over the next couple of years. This is just another form of big data.
  - icebraining 13y ago
    "Big data" is huge an expected to grow exponentially over the next couple of years. Well, there's plenty of things expected to grow, that doesn't make them necessarily good. Pollution levels are expected to grow as well, that doesn't mean it's OK to pollute. This is just another form of big data. I disagree with that. Some forms of big data violate people's privacy, other forms don't; we can't judge them all equally.
    - namank 13y ago
      Oh right, because everything not relevant to the context of the situation must be dragged in to the discussion, right? Big data is the umbrella term and just throwing the term around signifies an understanding of analytics; the main reason for collecting all kinds of random data. It can't be judged equally but then who is responsible for judging it?
sdfjkl 13y ago
Worse, the advertisers have made their own browser and it's pretty popular. "Not signed in to Chrome (You're missing out -- sign in)" Now they don't even need tracking cookies anymore.
- csense 13y ago
  Chrome's open-source. If there's tracking stuff in there, why doesn't somebody fork the code and delete that part?
  - sdfjkl 13y ago
    There's no need for "tracking stuff". You get users to hand over data willingly by making it a useful/convenient feature, at least to some. In this case, simply let users sync their everything[1] to your servers. Now you can do whatever you want with this information. [1] Browsing history, bookmarks, saved passwords, form autofill data, see https://support.google.com/chrome/answer/185277 https://support.google.com/chrome/answer/185277

by namank 13y ago

hnha 13y ago

Then I would simply use another browser that does not spy on its users. Thankfully we can install any software on our computers and even write our own.

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icebraining 13y ago

But it's not your browser. Some kind people have created one for you. Should they not explore potential avenues of revenue? They should only explore avenues of revenue that don't depend on spying on users. Offering a browser for free doesn't excuse such actions.

namank 13y ago
I agree. But for the sake of argument, why? "Big data" is huge an expected to grow exponentially over the next couple of years. This is just another form of big data.
- icebraining 13y ago
  "Big data" is huge an expected to grow exponentially over the next couple of years. Well, there's plenty of things expected to grow, that doesn't make them necessarily good. Pollution levels are expected to grow as well, that doesn't mean it's OK to pollute. This is just another form of big data. I disagree with that. Some forms of big data violate people's privacy, other forms don't; we can't judge them all equally.
  - namank 13y ago
    Oh right, because everything not relevant to the context of the situation must be dragged in to the discussion, right? Big data is the umbrella term and just throwing the term around signifies an understanding of analytics; the main reason for collecting all kinds of random data. It can't be judged equally but then who is responsible for judging it?

sdfjkl 13y ago

Worse, the advertisers have made their own browser and it's pretty popular. "Not signed in to Chrome (You're missing out -- sign in)" Now they don't even need tracking cookies anymore.

csense 13y ago
Chrome's open-source. If there's tracking stuff in there, why doesn't somebody fork the code and delete that part?
- sdfjkl 13y ago
  There's no need for "tracking stuff". You get users to hand over data willingly by making it a useful/convenient feature, at least to some. In this case, simply let users sync their everything[1] to your servers. Now you can do whatever you want with this information. [1] Browsing history, bookmarks, saved passwords, form autofill data, see https://support.google.com/chrome/answer/185277 https://support.google.com/chrome/answer/185277