> i've never spied on anyone, tortured anyone, or killed anyone You voted for a government that spied, tortured and killed people for you. Note that it doesn’t

> i've never spied on anyone, tortured anyone, or killed anyone You voted for a government that spied, tortured and killed people for you. Note that it doesn’t matter whether you voted for the current president or not, neither does it matter whether you’re even registered as a voter. What does matter is that you are allowed to vote (as a US citizen, I presume) and hence bear full responsibility for the actions of your government[0]. Which routinely spies on and at least tortures Europeans. > Particularly since other "Europeans" would apparently get a free pass in regards to anything their own governments happen to have done? I do feel solidarity towards other members of the EU, being the naive pan-European that I feel like being, and do not mind accepting some flaws in return for them accepting mine. The difference is that there is some common government/council and even a common and generally accepted court of law which can resolve differences, whereas there is no such thing for ‘divergencies’ with neither the USG, nor the people of the US. [0] The argument goes roughly like this: If we assume you to only bear responsibility if you are part of this government, someone can elect a fascist leader and avoid any responsibility. If we assume you to only be responsible if you voted for the current government, we violate the secrecy of the vote. If we assume you to only be responsible if you voted at all (something that is often publicly known), then we offer you yet another get-out-of-jail-free card, furthermore, you could have voted against the current incumbent and hence possibly change the outcome of the election. Hence established that everyone allowed to vote is responsible for the actions of the government, we can then conclude that you bear full responsibility for said actions (at the very least towards third-country citizens, I don’t care how you manage that internally) by the simple fact that people don’t get discounts if they commit crimes with their friends.