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Since the UK is acting as the USA's slurp gateway, I reckon the Germans should be having a word with us. Also, if the EU wants to block the US in what ever way
by alan_cx 13y ago
Since the UK is acting as the USA's slurp gateway, I reckon the Germans should be having a word with us.
Also, if the EU wants to block the US in what ever way, its going to need to block the UK too, since it will side with the US.
- claudius 13y agoHopefully you’re going to take care of that yourself after the next election.
- muyuu 13y agoIf you're talking about the EU in/out in the UK I'm looking forward to it, but the EU will resist to it even happening. Nothing scares the EU more than the threat of a popular consultation.
- Nursie 13y agoIf you think the rather bovine electorate of any of our great western nations will either remember or figure out why they should give a crap... well you have a lot more faith in humanity than I have left.
- claudius 13y agoThe rather bovine electorate of the UK prefers to leave the apparently over-regulating, wasteful and generally evil EU, which would then would make it far easier to impose restrictions on UK services. Given that the UK already contributes nearly nothing to the EU budget and economy (apart from an oversized banking sector in no small part responsible for the current financial crisis), the remaining countries will not seriously resist the UK leaving. De Gaulle really was right from the start :)
- mc32 13y agoIt's either naivete or posturing. All major gov'ts intercept each other's traffic and do espionage (industrial or intelligence) on each other. It's a kind of gentleman's agreement. We know you spy on us, you know we spy on you, but let's pretend we don't, publicly, and if something becomes public (one of us is careless), act outraged and protest. (the Lady doeth protest too much)
- mjn 13y ago> It's either naivete or posturing. Possibly a bit of commercial opportunism as well. Regardless of whether it improves security, it would be in Germany's economic interests for more Europeans to use Europe-based webservices rather than U.S.-based ones.
- walshemj 13y agoJust like Captain Renault in Casablanca - though when I was running a dark aws server (bare ip no domain assigned) for my employer it was funny that all the attacks came via Chinese/Russian IP ranges.
- coldtea 13y ago>All major gov'ts intercept each other's traffic and do espionage (industrial or intelligence) on each other. It's a kind of gentleman's agreement. 1) What about the no-major gov'ts? Are those OK to be spied on? Like half of Europe's population and most of the rest of the world? 2) And, no, that "all major gov'ts intercept each other's traffic and do espionage" paints a BS naive picture. As if, say, Austria is in the same level with the US on this. No major country does this at the level the US does or with equal resources. For one, the rest of the "major gov'ts" don't "own" the internet, from ICANN to all the major players (Google, FB, Apple, MS, Amazon). Not to mention most (all?) credit card companies are also American. And even if they did, they would not know what to do with it. They don't have the diplomatic upper hand or the major interests in almost every field the US has.
- clarkm 13y agoYeah, the Anglosphere (Australia, Canada, New Zealand, UK, and the US) has several exclusive treaties and especially strong relationships that would no doubt take precedence over the EU. They already share quite a bit of signals intelligence, e.g. ECHELON. And most of it has been ongoing for decades. For example, the agreement that created Five Eyes: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UKUSA_Agreement http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UKUSA_Agreement