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You'd think they could at least have slowly integrated Reader with their G+ vision rather than alienating a good portion of the users who have championed them f

You'd think they could at least have slowly integrated Reader with their G+ vision rather than alienating a good portion of the users who have championed them for years.

ecspike 13y ago
They did slowly integrate some parts of Reader into Google+ and it was met with resistance. Google+ Sparks was a kind of RSS/StumbleUpon thing. Flopped. Reader sharing became sharing into Google+. Many in the Reader crew defiantly cried out against it and said they wouldn't share things if they had to use Google+ to do it. It wouldn't have been all roses no matter how you cut it. I think people are in the bargaining phase of dealing with their post-Reader era grief.
- MatthewPhillips 13y ago
  Sparks didn't have RSS... did it?
stevewilhelm 13y ago
I think you miss the point. Google, Facebook, and Twitter don't want publishers to use RSS/Atom. They want them to publish using their respective, proprietary APIs.
- dragonwriter 13y ago
  I suppose that's why -- since about the time Buzz was introduced -- Google's been pushing an open push publishing specification (PubSubHubbub).
  - rsynnott 13y ago
    ... Which is not used or supported by Google+. PubSubHubbub was very much part of a different era.
    - sergiosgc 13y ago
      How would G+ possibly use PuSH? It does not make sense. There is no use case. The main (search) Google crawler does support PUSH.
    - rossj 13y ago
      PubSubHubbub is still alive and kicking though, and Google still seem to be encouraging people to use it. The blogpost at http://googledevelopers.blogspot.co.uk/2013/07/pubsubhubbub-feeds-and-feed-api.html http://googledevelopers.blogspot.co.uk/2013/07/pubsubhubbub-... also mentions a Feed API. I'm confused, I guess this means that only the sync + ui for reader is dead.
    - dragonwriter 13y ago
      > Which is not used or supported by Google+ So, what? > PubSubHubbub was very much part of a different era. PubSubHubbub is very much part of now, which is why they just released a new version of the spec.

You'd think they could at least have slowly integrated Reader with their G+ vision rather than alienating a good portion of the users who have championed them for years.

ecspike 13y ago

They did slowly integrate some parts of Reader into Google+ and it was met with resistance. Google+ Sparks was a kind of RSS/StumbleUpon thing. Flopped. Reader sharing became sharing into Google+. Many in the Reader crew defiantly cried out against it and said they wouldn't share things if they had to use Google+ to do it. It wouldn't have been all roses no matter how you cut it. I think people are in the bargaining phase of dealing with their post-Reader era grief.

MatthewPhillips 13y ago
Sparks didn't have RSS... did it?

stevewilhelm 13y ago

I think you miss the point. Google, Facebook, and Twitter don't want publishers to use RSS/Atom. They want them to publish using their respective, proprietary APIs.

dragonwriter 13y ago
I suppose that's why -- since about the time Buzz was introduced -- Google's been pushing an open push publishing specification (PubSubHubbub).
- rsynnott 13y ago
  ... Which is not used or supported by Google+. PubSubHubbub was very much part of a different era.
  - sergiosgc 13y ago
    How would G+ possibly use PuSH? It does not make sense. There is no use case. The main (search) Google crawler does support PUSH.
  - rossj 13y ago
    PubSubHubbub is still alive and kicking though, and Google still seem to be encouraging people to use it. The blogpost at http://googledevelopers.blogspot.co.uk/2013/07/pubsubhubbub-feeds-and-feed-api.html http://googledevelopers.blogspot.co.uk/2013/07/pubsubhubbub-... also mentions a Feed API. I'm confused, I guess this means that only the sync + ui for reader is dead.
  - dragonwriter 13y ago
    > Which is not used or supported by Google+ So, what? > PubSubHubbub was very much part of a different era. PubSubHubbub is very much part of now, which is why they just released a new version of the spec.