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The US government appears to be absolutely terrified of this 29-year-old former NSA contractor. What could he possibly be saving to use against them?

by beedogs 13y ago

krapp 13y ago
The US government appears to be absolutely terrified of this 29-year-old former NSA contractor. No it doesn't, really. I believe this is wishful thinking on your part, but see no evidence of it. You believe the US somehow planted this bug in the Ecuadorian embassy just in case Snowden ended up there? America isn't the only country in the world that bugs embassies and even so, where's the proof this particular bug is that new?
- ryguytilidie 13y ago
  How you could say "I see no evidence of this" is just so far beyond me I don't know whether to laugh or cry. You think that insisting the guy is barred from every ally or that we are grounding foreign president's planes because we are worried Snowden might be on them and somehow your brain takes all these inputs and spits out "no evidence". How does that happen? Does one train in some sort of ignorance academy?
  - krapp 13y ago
    You think that insisting the guy is barred from every ally You're assuming that every other government is a puppet state of the US, incapable of making its own decisions or engaging in its own politics. No one else has to give Edward Snowden asylum if they don't want to. If you're talking about his passport being revoked, he was accused of a serious crime and was fleeing the country -- revoking someone's passport under those circumstances is not uncommon. None of this is evidence of the US being 'terrified' of anything. we are grounding foreign president's planes because we are worried Snowden might be on them WE did not ground anything, unless I missed the part where the United States runs the European Union. I suppose if there's a thunderstorm in Moscow, it's because the US controls the weather too? If Edward Snowden has a bad egg salad sandwich, the US must be poisoning everyone's chickens? Consider this... the assumption that Edward Snowden has access to secrets so utterly damaging to the US that the government would be willing to do anything and everything possible to stop him... which brings with it the suggestion that the US is so evil that it would have such a secret still stowed away somewhere.... ... and yet we let him leave the country at all. And yet, we appear (despite being 'absolutely terrified') to be working within the system. You think it would be impossible for the CIA to book a couple of flights to Moscow and maybe have Edward Snowden eat a bullet if they were that desperate?
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vnchr 13y ago
Regardless of potential damage, he has made a lot of powerful people very angry. Simple retribution seems like it would suffice for the reaction to date.
- wavefunction 13y ago
  These "serious people" don't like to look like fools. Don't peek behind the curtain.
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logn 13y ago
Dirt on every single one of them personally? But I'd doubt that as Snowden actually seems like a person of high morals who wouldn't stoop to that even to save his life. Anyhow, the sad thing is, I don't think the government really cares. This is about making a point, showing their power, and discouraging this from ever happening again.

The US government appears to be absolutely terrified of this 29-year-old former NSA contractor. What could he possibly be saving to use against them?

by beedogs 13y ago

The US government appears to be absolutely terrified of this 29-year-old former NSA contractor. What could he possibly be saving to use against them?

krapp 13y ago

The US government appears to be absolutely terrified of this 29-year-old former NSA contractor. No it doesn't, really. I believe this is wishful thinking on your part, but see no evidence of it. You believe the US somehow planted this bug in the Ecuadorian embassy just in case Snowden ended up there? America isn't the only country in the world that bugs embassies and even so, where's the proof this particular bug is that new?

ryguytilidie 13y ago
How you could say "I see no evidence of this" is just so far beyond me I don't know whether to laugh or cry. You think that insisting the guy is barred from every ally or that we are grounding foreign president's planes because we are worried Snowden might be on them and somehow your brain takes all these inputs and spits out "no evidence". How does that happen? Does one train in some sort of ignorance academy?
- krapp 13y ago
  You think that insisting the guy is barred from every ally You're assuming that every other government is a puppet state of the US, incapable of making its own decisions or engaging in its own politics. No one else has to give Edward Snowden asylum if they don't want to. If you're talking about his passport being revoked, he was accused of a serious crime and was fleeing the country -- revoking someone's passport under those circumstances is not uncommon. None of this is evidence of the US being 'terrified' of anything. we are grounding foreign president's planes because we are worried Snowden might be on them WE did not ground anything, unless I missed the part where the United States runs the European Union. I suppose if there's a thunderstorm in Moscow, it's because the US controls the weather too? If Edward Snowden has a bad egg salad sandwich, the US must be poisoning everyone's chickens? Consider this... the assumption that Edward Snowden has access to secrets so utterly damaging to the US that the government would be willing to do anything and everything possible to stop him... which brings with it the suggestion that the US is so evil that it would have such a secret still stowed away somewhere.... ... and yet we let him leave the country at all. And yet, we appear (despite being 'absolutely terrified') to be working within the system. You think it would be impossible for the CIA to book a couple of flights to Moscow and maybe have Edward Snowden eat a bullet if they were that desperate?
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vnchr 13y ago

Regardless of potential damage, he has made a lot of powerful people very angry. Simple retribution seems like it would suffice for the reaction to date.

wavefunction 13y ago
These "serious people" don't like to look like fools. Don't peek behind the curtain.
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logn 13y ago

Dirt on every single one of them personally? But I'd doubt that as Snowden actually seems like a person of high morals who wouldn't stoop to that even to save his life. Anyhow, the sad thing is, I don't think the government really cares. This is about making a point, showing their power, and discouraging this from ever happening again.