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Uh, no. Breitbart was a lot of things, but certainly not a journalist of nearly the same caliber. And given that he claimed to work on "big stories" pretty much

by groby_b 13y ago

Uh, no. Breitbart was a lot of things, but certainly not a journalist of nearly the same caliber. And given that he claimed to work on "big stories" pretty much all the time, we can take that out of the equation, too. And your disingenuous argument trying to tie drone attacks into that is an utter disservice to truth. To quote from the fine article: "could target a citizen if he was a senior operational leader of Al Qaeda involved in plots against the country and if his capture was not feasible." Whatever your position on this is, you need to stretch mightily to make this into "the government is indiscriminately killing people it doesn't like". So please remember that extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. And try to bring at least the tiniest bit of evidence to a post that's rather light on them.

mrschwabe 13y ago
So please remember that extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. Thank-you, I will remember that. I will also remember that, on occasion, extraordinary crimes happen in secret. And that there exist criminals in this world who have successfully suppressed, destroyed, or hidden evidence of their crimes; and as a result have not - and may not ever be - brought to justice. Note that I wasn't making any claims - just pointing out some relevant information to consider.
lazyjones 13y ago
> "could target a citizen if he was a senior operational leader of Al Qaeda involved in plots against the country and if his capture was not feasible." They have already assassinated a 16 year old US citizen who was not a senior Al Qaeda leader and who wasn't "collateral damage" either: http://boingboing.net/2011/10/21/awlakis.html http://boingboing.net/2011/10/21/awlakis.html
- groby_b 13y ago
  If you'd get your news from other sources but boingboing, you'd be aware that we actually don't know if he was targeted or collateral damage. Once again, I'm not debating the morality of the drone program, or the ludicrousness of writing off killings as "collateral damage". I debate the deliberate use of misinformation to score a point. We all need to stop distorting the truth to suit our purpose, so we can see what's actually happening - which is bad enough and doesn't require conspiracy theories.

by groby_b 13y ago

mrschwabe 13y ago

So please remember that extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. Thank-you, I will remember that. I will also remember that, on occasion, extraordinary crimes happen in secret. And that there exist criminals in this world who have successfully suppressed, destroyed, or hidden evidence of their crimes; and as a result have not - and may not ever be - brought to justice. Note that I wasn't making any claims - just pointing out some relevant information to consider.

lazyjones 13y ago

> "could target a citizen if he was a senior operational leader of Al Qaeda involved in plots against the country and if his capture was not feasible." They have already assassinated a 16 year old US citizen who was not a senior Al Qaeda leader and who wasn't "collateral damage" either: http://boingboing.net/2011/10/21/awlakis.html http://boingboing.net/2011/10/21/awlakis.html

groby_b 13y ago
If you'd get your news from other sources but boingboing, you'd be aware that we actually don't know if he was targeted or collateral damage. Once again, I'm not debating the morality of the drone program, or the ludicrousness of writing off killings as "collateral damage". I debate the deliberate use of misinformation to score a point. We all need to stop distorting the truth to suit our purpose, so we can see what's actually happening - which is bad enough and doesn't require conspiracy theories.