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White House petition to protect Tesla from auto dealers close to 100k signatures

19 points by MikeCapone 13y ago

mtgx 13y ago
At 98,000, with 2-3 days to go: https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/allow-tesla-motors-sell-directly-consumers-all-50-states/bFN7NHQR?utm_campaign=NA_HQ_June282013_WHpetition.html&utm_medium=email&utm_source=Eloqua&elq=181c87a61cd74b7d93c1f7ff7ce1fca8&elqCampaignId=194 https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/allow-tesla-motors...
DerekL 13y ago
Does anyone know what legal basis the president could use to preempt state laws in this case?
larrys 13y ago
"allow Tesla Motors to sell directly to consumers in all 50 states." I fail to understand why people think that dealers make tons of money selling cars and "duping" the public (my words, a summary the essence of this story). Dealers make money doing service, financing and a host of other things. They will still be needed unless of course Tesla decides to duplicate dealers everywhere (something that's not going to happen).
- toomuchtodo 13y ago
  Electric vehicles need drastically less service than an internal combustion vehicle. Brakes every ~100K miles or so, tire rotations every ~10K miles, both which can be done by almost any shop. There should very little need for as many dealers as there are now when electric vehicles start being sold in large numbers.
  - larrys 13y ago
    Post warranty repair to correct imperfections and adjustments. A car is still a mechanical device even if the engine is electric. Recalls also for that matter. Not arguing whether less but still needed. Also, one of the things that dealers do is get people to buy. Fixed pricing doesn't work as well in selling autos which is an emotional purchase. People need to have an incentive to buy now and a human (with all the bs) can be helpful with that. Because the dealership makes a small margin they have actually moved over the years to mega dealers who are able to sell multiple brands and move tons of product. My point is simply there isn't that much to wring out of the dealer system as people think.

19 points by MikeCapone 13y ago

mtgx 13y ago

At 98,000, with 2-3 days to go: https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/allow-tesla-motors-sell-directly-consumers-all-50-states/bFN7NHQR?utm_campaign=NA_HQ_June282013_WHpetition.html&utm_medium=email&utm_source=Eloqua&elq=181c87a61cd74b7d93c1f7ff7ce1fca8&elqCampaignId=194 https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/allow-tesla-motors...

DerekL 13y ago

Does anyone know what legal basis the president could use to preempt state laws in this case?

larrys 13y ago

"allow Tesla Motors to sell directly to consumers in all 50 states." I fail to understand why people think that dealers make tons of money selling cars and "duping" the public (my words, a summary the essence of this story). Dealers make money doing service, financing and a host of other things. They will still be needed unless of course Tesla decides to duplicate dealers everywhere (something that's not going to happen).

toomuchtodo 13y ago
Electric vehicles need drastically less service than an internal combustion vehicle. Brakes every ~100K miles or so, tire rotations every ~10K miles, both which can be done by almost any shop. There should very little need for as many dealers as there are now when electric vehicles start being sold in large numbers.
- larrys 13y ago
  Post warranty repair to correct imperfections and adjustments. A car is still a mechanical device even if the engine is electric. Recalls also for that matter. Not arguing whether less but still needed. Also, one of the things that dealers do is get people to buy. Fixed pricing doesn't work as well in selling autos which is an emotional purchase. People need to have an incentive to buy now and a human (with all the bs) can be helpful with that. Because the dealership makes a small margin they have actually moved over the years to mega dealers who are able to sell multiple brands and move tons of product. My point is simply there isn't that much to wring out of the dealer system as people think.