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I wish they (FF) would also spend some time on the small annoyances: Lack of a restart button. Now when I upgrade FF, I have to "kill -9" it from my terminal t

by ajays 13y ago

I wish they (FF) would also spend some time on the small annoyances: Lack of a restart button. Now when I upgrade FF, I have to "kill -9" it from my terminal to get it to restore windows upon restart Memory leaks. Leave yourself logged in to Facebook for a few days, and watch it take up 2GB of memory. No way to easily filter sites with cookies like you can in the next tab over, where you manage sites with saved passwords. Why is this? Does FF secretly want you to not muck with cookies? Now, I'm sure there are addons and plugins for the above. But I should _not_ need addons for basic UX. Save the addons for fancier stuff.

padenot 13y ago
* For the restart after upgrade, either it is a bug, or you have not seen the little "restore tabs from last time" button in the lower right part of the browser. * I have not experienced that, I don't use Facebook. * For the cookie stuff, you'll be pleased to learn about the about:permissions feature (type it in your address bar).
- epmatsw 13y ago
  Whoa, about:permissions is awesome. Thanks for that!
- Recoil42 13y ago
  I have not experienced that, I don't use Facebook. "Area Man Constantly Mentioning He Doesn't Use Facebook"
- lazyjones 13y ago
  > about:permissions Interesting, thanks. But while it's open, the list of sites keeps growing for me, apparently various shady/malware sites get added at the bottom continuously. I haven't managed to find it why this happens, but I'm guessing that it may have something to do with the "safe browsing" feature, perhaps all sites in the blacklist get added to about:permissions for some obscure reason. Any ideas?
epmatsw 13y ago
If you go to Help > About Firefox when there's an update to be installed, there's a restart button that restores tabs. As for memory leaks, it's been a project for a while now: https://areweslimyet.com/ https://areweslimyet.com/ I'm not entirely sure what the third point is referring to (I just let the browser handle cookies), but in the Privacy tab of Options, you can view and remove individual cookies and search by site. So maybe that helps with what you want?
shardling 13y ago
>Leave yourself logged in to Facebook for a few days, and watch it take up 2GB of memory. It's entirely possible for a website to have a memory leak. (Or, at any rate, consume an ever increasing amount of memory.) If closing the tab and opening it again frees the memory, then there might not be anything FF can do about it. (It's also possible you've got an addon causing the problem.)
- Domenic_S 13y ago
  Doesn't FB constantly update the feed? If you leave the feed open, won't the page grow unbounded? Seems like it's working as intended...
  - omaranto 13y ago
    It doesn't remove the oldest items? (I really don't know, I only visit Facebook for about an hour at a time at the most.)
- kevingadd 13y ago
  Facebook indeed has a long history of really dumb memory leaks that browsers can't do anything about, combined with memory leaks that are exacerbated by browser bugs and require improvements to garbage collectors and stuff. It's rough.
Spittie 13y ago
>lack of a restart button. I don't think Chrome has one. Anyway, either press shift+f2 to bring up the Developer Toolbar and type "restart", or install an addon like Restartless Restart (https://addons.mozilla.org/en-us/firefox/addon/restartless-restart/ https://addons.mozilla.org/en-us/firefox/addon/restartless-r...). You can also just go into the settings, and set "When Firefox starts:" to "Show my windows and tabs from last time". And I don't see why a "normal" user should want a default button in the UI to restart the browser. >Memory leaks The situation is much better now, there still are some leaks here and there, but nothing huge, at least with my usage (I usually restart my browser every 1-2 days to update to the latest Nightly, and have about 50 tabs open). The team responsible for memory leaks is the MemShrink team, you can see their progress here: https://blog.mozilla.org/nnethercote/ https://blog.mozilla.org/nnethercote/ I'd also suggest to install the addon "about:addons-memory", and see if any of your addons is leaking memory (https://addons.mozilla.org/en-us/firefox/addon/about-addons-memory/ https://addons.mozilla.org/en-us/firefox/addon/about-addons-...) If you still see memory leaks, please report them on bugzilla. >Cookies While something like this would be nice, I don't think that "normal users" needs to mess up with Cookies. If you're a power user, and want to enable/disable cookies on a per-sites base, install an addon that let you do it. I'm personally very happy with Cookie Controller: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/cookie-controller/ https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/cookie-contro...
- Ives 13y ago
  After chrome upgrades itself, a "Restart Chrome" button appears in the "About Chrome" window.
  - Spittie 13y ago
    So does Firefox. First image found on Google: http://www.techapna.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/Restart-To-Update-Firefox.png http://www.techapna.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/Restart-T...
mccr8 13y ago
In "general" under "preferences", you can select whether the browser restores tabs from last time it was exited. Maybe that somehow get set to something besides "Show my windows and tabs from last time"?
omaranto 13y ago
I think Facebook itself has the memory leak: I never leave it open for more than about an hour at a time, but I've heard from people that leave it open for days that it can take up between 1 and 2 GB; some of these people use Firefox, some Chrome and some Safari.

by ajays 13y ago

padenot 13y ago

* For the restart after upgrade, either it is a bug, or you have not seen the little "restore tabs from last time" button in the lower right part of the browser. * I have not experienced that, I don't use Facebook. * For the cookie stuff, you'll be pleased to learn about the about:permissions feature (type it in your address bar).

epmatsw 13y ago
Whoa, about:permissions is awesome. Thanks for that!
Recoil42 13y ago
I have not experienced that, I don't use Facebook. "Area Man Constantly Mentioning He Doesn't Use Facebook"
lazyjones 13y ago
> about:permissions Interesting, thanks. But while it's open, the list of sites keeps growing for me, apparently various shady/malware sites get added at the bottom continuously. I haven't managed to find it why this happens, but I'm guessing that it may have something to do with the "safe browsing" feature, perhaps all sites in the blacklist get added to about:permissions for some obscure reason. Any ideas?

epmatsw 13y ago

If you go to Help > About Firefox when there's an update to be installed, there's a restart button that restores tabs. As for memory leaks, it's been a project for a while now: https://areweslimyet.com/ https://areweslimyet.com/ I'm not entirely sure what the third point is referring to (I just let the browser handle cookies), but in the Privacy tab of Options, you can view and remove individual cookies and search by site. So maybe that helps with what you want?

shardling 13y ago

>Leave yourself logged in to Facebook for a few days, and watch it take up 2GB of memory. It's entirely possible for a website to have a memory leak. (Or, at any rate, consume an ever increasing amount of memory.) If closing the tab and opening it again frees the memory, then there might not be anything FF can do about it. (It's also possible you've got an addon causing the problem.)

Domenic_S 13y ago
Doesn't FB constantly update the feed? If you leave the feed open, won't the page grow unbounded? Seems like it's working as intended...
- omaranto 13y ago
  It doesn't remove the oldest items? (I really don't know, I only visit Facebook for about an hour at a time at the most.)
kevingadd 13y ago
Facebook indeed has a long history of really dumb memory leaks that browsers can't do anything about, combined with memory leaks that are exacerbated by browser bugs and require improvements to garbage collectors and stuff. It's rough.

Spittie 13y ago

>lack of a restart button. I don't think Chrome has one. Anyway, either press shift+f2 to bring up the Developer Toolbar and type "restart", or install an addon like Restartless Restart (https://addons.mozilla.org/en-us/firefox/addon/restartless-restart/ https://addons.mozilla.org/en-us/firefox/addon/restartless-r...). You can also just go into the settings, and set "When Firefox starts:" to "Show my windows and tabs from last time". And I don't see why a "normal" user should want a default button in the UI to restart the browser. >Memory leaks The situation is much better now, there still are some leaks here and there, but nothing huge, at least with my usage (I usually restart my browser every 1-2 days to update to the latest Nightly, and have about 50 tabs open). The team responsible for memory leaks is the MemShrink team, you can see their progress here: https://blog.mozilla.org/nnethercote/ https://blog.mozilla.org/nnethercote/ I'd also suggest to install the addon "about:addons-memory", and see if any of your addons is leaking memory (https://addons.mozilla.org/en-us/firefox/addon/about-addons-memory/ https://addons.mozilla.org/en-us/firefox/addon/about-addons-...) If you still see memory leaks, please report them on bugzilla. >Cookies While something like this would be nice, I don't think that "normal users" needs to mess up with Cookies. If you're a power user, and want to enable/disable cookies on a per-sites base, install an addon that let you do it. I'm personally very happy with Cookie Controller: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/cookie-controller/ https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/cookie-contro...

Ives 13y ago
After chrome upgrades itself, a "Restart Chrome" button appears in the "About Chrome" window.
- Spittie 13y ago
  So does Firefox. First image found on Google: http://www.techapna.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/Restart-To-Update-Firefox.png http://www.techapna.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/Restart-T...

mccr8 13y ago

In "general" under "preferences", you can select whether the browser restores tabs from last time it was exited. Maybe that somehow get set to something besides "Show my windows and tabs from last time"?

omaranto 13y ago

I think Facebook itself has the memory leak: I never leave it open for more than about an hour at a time, but I've heard from people that leave it open for days that it can take up between 1 and 2 GB; some of these people use Firefox, some Chrome and some Safari.