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"The socialist initiative we need is to shut down unskilled immigration entirely." This is the exact opposite of a "socialist" initative. Either you are being
by Kurtz79 13y ago
"The socialist initiative we need is to shut down unskilled immigration entirely."
This is the exact opposite of a "socialist" initative. Either you are being ironic or do not really know in what sense "socialist" is being used here.
Either way, feels kind of cheap considering that unskilled migration has historically been one of the driving forces behind US growth and progress, and that many first class US citizens today are probably descendants of some of those migrants.
- 13b9f227ecf0 13y agoI'm actually curious why you associate open borders with socialism/communism. That's usually considered an anarcho-capitalist position. Pro-worker policies like organized labor and immigration restriction are historically associated with the left.
- eru 13y agoMaybe he's a European leftie? They were historically much more internationalist.
- krakensden 13y agoIn the US at least, the strongest anti-immigration sentiment usually comes from the right, for the usual boring list of xenophobic reasons.
- steveklabnik 13y agoActual anarchists are socialist/communist, and quite often use anti-borders slogans. Not to mention standby organizations like No One Is Illegal.. Furthermore, one of the fundamental tenets of communism is a stateless society, so there's that. And many communists thought it was one of the more important initial goals, hence 'one world communism.'
- yk 13y agoThe communists did call their organization 'International Workingmen's Association', the first international, in 1864. In fact, I think that the nationalist/internationalist question is what most closely resembles the traditional left/right axis of politics.