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You can fly wherever you want. No international commercial airline will let you on their plane unless you have a valid passport / VISA for the destination. If

You can fly wherever you want. No international commercial airline will let you on their plane unless you have a valid passport / VISA for the destination. If you show up by private plane, you will have to show your passport to enter the country, or else you are denied entry. Currently, Snowden is denied entry to Russia, and is stuck in the "Transportation Zone" of a Russian airport, unable to enter the country. Snowden was in discussions for asylum with Russia (who would issue papers allowing him in if granted), but Snowden has reconsidered this option and is seeking asylum elsewhere.

abrimo 13y ago
When you board a commercial airline you have to show that you have a valid visa/passport for your destination however that is not technically checked until you go through that country's immigration service. So would it be possible for a private jet to pick up Snowden and drop him in Ecuador where he could officially apply for asylum? It sounds like the main issue is that he has to be in Ecuador to apply.
- TylerE 13y ago
  Very tricky because any private jet isn't going to have the range to make that in one hop.
  - ra 13y ago
    No but maybe it could fly over the arctic to iceland, refuel then to somewhere in northwest africa for a quick refuel, then across the atlantic. Bit of a trek but possible?
Torn 13y ago
He's also had his US passport revoked - if he does fly, it'll have to be accompanied by diplomats or similar with special dispensations
- toomuchtodo 13y ago
  As a US citizen, its bullshit that a country can revoke your right to travel outside of itself.
  - dragonwriter 13y ago
    > As a US citizen, its bullshit that a country can revoke your right to travel outside of itself. Countries don't provide (or revoke) your right to travel outside of their sovereign jurisdiction (which would be contrary to the entire idea of sovereign jurisdiction); they can, however, revoke their willingness to represent to other countries that they have some kind of relationship with you. (They can also stop you from exiting their jurisdiction while you are still inside it, and though the US would have liked to have done that in Snowden's case, it didn't have the opportunity.) Its the country you are currently in and the one you are attempting to enter that control whether or not you have the "right" to travel.
    - toomuchtodo 13y ago
      You, as a citizen of country, have the right to renounce your citizenship of that country at any time. Your country of citizenship should never have the right to revoke your own citizenship. I understand stopping someone from leaving the borders due to legal reasons. But being able to stop your travel once you're outside the country? No.
      - dragonwriter 13y ago
        > Your country of citizenship should never have the right to revoke your own citizenship. Revoking a passport isn't revoking citizenship (governments, right or wrong, can do both, but they are separate and distinct acts.) > But being able to stop your travel once you're outside the country? Revoking your passport is basically your country no longer vouching for you. Other countries choose whether or not this should impact your ability to travel.
  - mattzito 13y ago

abrimo 13y ago

When you board a commercial airline you have to show that you have a valid visa/passport for your destination however that is not technically checked until you go through that country's immigration service. So would it be possible for a private jet to pick up Snowden and drop him in Ecuador where he could officially apply for asylum? It sounds like the main issue is that he has to be in Ecuador to apply.

TylerE 13y ago
Very tricky because any private jet isn't going to have the range to make that in one hop.
- ra 13y ago
  No but maybe it could fly over the arctic to iceland, refuel then to somewhere in northwest africa for a quick refuel, then across the atlantic. Bit of a trek but possible?

Torn 13y ago

He's also had his US passport revoked - if he does fly, it'll have to be accompanied by diplomats or similar with special dispensations

toomuchtodo 13y ago
As a US citizen, its bullshit that a country can revoke your right to travel outside of itself.
- dragonwriter 13y ago
  > As a US citizen, its bullshit that a country can revoke your right to travel outside of itself. Countries don't provide (or revoke) your right to travel outside of their sovereign jurisdiction (which would be contrary to the entire idea of sovereign jurisdiction); they can, however, revoke their willingness to represent to other countries that they have some kind of relationship with you. (They can also stop you from exiting their jurisdiction while you are still inside it, and though the US would have liked to have done that in Snowden's case, it didn't have the opportunity.) Its the country you are currently in and the one you are attempting to enter that control whether or not you have the "right" to travel.
  - toomuchtodo 13y ago
    You, as a citizen of country, have the right to renounce your citizenship of that country at any time. Your country of citizenship should never have the right to revoke your own citizenship. I understand stopping someone from leaving the borders due to legal reasons. But being able to stop your travel once you're outside the country? No.
    - dragonwriter 13y ago
      > Your country of citizenship should never have the right to revoke your own citizenship. Revoking a passport isn't revoking citizenship (governments, right or wrong, can do both, but they are separate and distinct acts.) > But being able to stop your travel once you're outside the country? Revoking your passport is basically your country no longer vouching for you. Other countries choose whether or not this should impact your ability to travel.
- mattzito 13y ago