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A large contingent of mainstream European nations included. Europe stepping forward to defend Snowden and stand against surveillance may tilt the balance. Euro

A large contingent of mainstream European nations included. Europe stepping forward to defend Snowden and stand against surveillance may tilt the balance. Europe is quite angry about being the "OK to do 100% surveillance on" foreigners.

sneak 13y ago
Well, except the UK and Germany, who both secretly participated (and presumably benefitted in return). It's hard to find bigger influencers of the EU than those two. :/ http://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/nsa-spies-on-500-million-german-data-connections-a-908648.html http://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/nsa-spies-on-500... Though, if it ends up being France, I will run out and buy a TV just to watch the stupidity that will come out of TV news afterward. :D
- teawithcarl 13y ago
  Germany's in the list, and a solid candidate due to their past WWII disdain for surveillance, as well as Germany's privacy concerns about the Internet.
  - spullara 13y ago
    You must have missed the law in Germany that went into effect.
    - teawithcarl 13y ago
      Perhaps so.
- hkmurakami 13y ago
  >Though, if it ends up being France, I will run out and buy a TV just to watch the stupidity that will come out of TV news afterward. :D Such an event would mark one of the few times in recent memory of the benefit of having family members who watch TV (I, much like you, do not any more). It will be theater live none other.
- ekianjo 13y ago
  > Though, if it ends up being France, I will run out and buy a TV just to watch the stupidity that will come out of TV news afterward. :D Time for the "Freedom Fries" to come back ? :)
laureny 13y ago
"Europe" can be as angry as it wants, at the end of the day, it's a singly country that will have to give asylum to Snowden, and I can't imagine a single country in all of Europe (including Russia) that would challenge the US in that way. The only countries I can see willing to take that risk would be the likes of Iran, Afghanistan or other similar enemies of the US. Not going to happen.
- danmaz74 13y ago
  This is one of the big reasons why I really want the EU to become a federation: Each country alone, even Germany, is too little on the World stage. Divide et impera.
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sneak 13y ago

Well, except the UK and Germany, who both secretly participated (and presumably benefitted in return). It's hard to find bigger influencers of the EU than those two. :/ http://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/nsa-spies-on-500-million-german-data-connections-a-908648.html http://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/nsa-spies-on-500... Though, if it ends up being France, I will run out and buy a TV just to watch the stupidity that will come out of TV news afterward. :D

teawithcarl 13y ago
Germany's in the list, and a solid candidate due to their past WWII disdain for surveillance, as well as Germany's privacy concerns about the Internet.
- spullara 13y ago
  You must have missed the law in Germany that went into effect.
  - teawithcarl 13y ago
    Perhaps so.
hkmurakami 13y ago
>Though, if it ends up being France, I will run out and buy a TV just to watch the stupidity that will come out of TV news afterward. :D Such an event would mark one of the few times in recent memory of the benefit of having family members who watch TV (I, much like you, do not any more). It will be theater live none other.
ekianjo 13y ago
> Though, if it ends up being France, I will run out and buy a TV just to watch the stupidity that will come out of TV news afterward. :D Time for the "Freedom Fries" to come back ? :)

laureny 13y ago

"Europe" can be as angry as it wants, at the end of the day, it's a singly country that will have to give asylum to Snowden, and I can't imagine a single country in all of Europe (including Russia) that would challenge the US in that way. The only countries I can see willing to take that risk would be the likes of Iran, Afghanistan or other similar enemies of the US. Not going to happen.

danmaz74 13y ago
This is one of the big reasons why I really want the EU to become a federation: Each country alone, even Germany, is too little on the World stage. Divide et impera.

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