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In China the kids take on an extraordinary workload, because long hours show dedication - but they're not learning effectively - instead they all cheat, bribe t

In China the kids take on an extraordinary workload, because long hours show dedication - but they're not learning effectively - instead they all cheat, bribe the teacher, etc. The appearance of working hard and actually working hard/effectively are two different things. Don't be fooled by cultures with endemic corruption. Germany obviously excluded.

jsnk 13y ago
>instead they all cheat, bribe the teacher, etc. This is wrong. Sure there are stories of Chinese students, parents and teachers cheating the system, but keep in mind that China is a country of whopping 1.3 billion people.
- eli_gottlieb 13y ago
  Just this past week they had a riot because some poor teachers tried to crack down on cheating.
  - DrewRWx 13y ago
    The justification for the protests was that the crackdown was a "pilot program" that only affected a small portion of students.
    - dTal 13y ago
      Which just goes to show how systemic it is, if cracking down on some subset of students put them at such a severe disadvantage as to be worth rioting about.
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Puer 13y ago
How are they not learning effectively? And do you have any sources or evidence to back up your claims of cheating or bribing teachers? Workload isn't an issue. It isn't like kids aren't capable of sitting for hours upon hours, they do these things in front of computers and TVs, the problem is that the public school curriculum is flawed.
- ionforce 13y ago
  Have you not heard of the high incidence rates of Chinese and Indian students being notorious for cheating? Ask any computer science teacher's assistant.
- jpatokal 13y ago
  Srsly? Cheating in China is so entrenched that there was a riot recently when it wasn't allowed: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/china/10132391/Riot-after-Chinese-teachers-try-to-stop-pupils-cheating.html http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/china/1013239...

jsnk 13y ago

>instead they all cheat, bribe the teacher, etc. This is wrong. Sure there are stories of Chinese students, parents and teachers cheating the system, but keep in mind that China is a country of whopping 1.3 billion people.

eli_gottlieb 13y ago
Just this past week they had a riot because some poor teachers tried to crack down on cheating.
- DrewRWx 13y ago
  The justification for the protests was that the crackdown was a "pilot program" that only affected a small portion of students.
  - dTal 13y ago
    Which just goes to show how systemic it is, if cracking down on some subset of students put them at such a severe disadvantage as to be worth rioting about.
  - deleted 13y ago
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Puer 13y ago

How are they not learning effectively? And do you have any sources or evidence to back up your claims of cheating or bribing teachers? Workload isn't an issue. It isn't like kids aren't capable of sitting for hours upon hours, they do these things in front of computers and TVs, the problem is that the public school curriculum is flawed.

ionforce 13y ago
Have you not heard of the high incidence rates of Chinese and Indian students being notorious for cheating? Ask any computer science teacher's assistant.
jpatokal 13y ago
Srsly? Cheating in China is so entrenched that there was a riot recently when it wasn't allowed: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/china/10132391/Riot-after-Chinese-teachers-try-to-stop-pupils-cheating.html http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/china/1013239...