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Its really quite ironic that this article was submitted by an account that is 33 days old and submits daily dot articles exclusively without ever commenting. I
by hayksaakian 13y ago
Its really quite ironic that this article was submitted by an account that is 33 days old and submits daily dot articles exclusively without ever commenting.
I pointed this out once before, the last time they wrote an article and submitted it, and that was about the same thing too.
- jmduke 13y agoThe submitter is the Asst. Managing Editor of the Daily Dot. That being said, I don't think there's anything particularly wrong with accounts that exist specifically to submit a given site's content (even programmatically), since that content must be still democratically approved by the user base. I think vote-brigading is a much more serious issue, and one that HN seems to deal with well.
- brokentone 13y agoAgreed, it sounded like the Atlantic guy banned eons ago was actually a good community member. At some point the Reddit restriction of "submit any content but your own" feels very artificial.
- nonotthatone 13y ago> submit any content but your own Plenty of people submit their own content. In fact, it's encouraged. You have reddit confused with digg, somehow.
- Uperte 13y ago"Feel free to post links to your own content (within reason). But if that's all you ever post, and it always seems to get voted down, take a good hard look in the mirror — you just might be a spammer. A widely used rule of thumb is the 9:1 ratio, i.e. only 1 out of every 10 of your submissions should be your own content." From reddiquette.
- minimaxir 13y agoIt's definitely not encouraged on Reddit, one of the old notes of Redditquite is "if more than 10% of what you submit is your personal content, then you're probably a spammer." Once, someone submitted one of my blog posts about a rather interesting bug in a AAA game to /r/programming. Over 1,000 net score. Out of curiosity, I submitted the same post myself to /r/games. -7 score.
- skeletonjelly 13y agoYour last example could be bad timing and/or the r/games audience not caring about programming etc
- minimaxir 13y agoTrue, although once a credible news source made a post with similar, it hit the front page of /r/games quickly.
- zevyoura 13y agoActually, Reddit's FAQ[1] says: > If over 10% of your submissions are your own site/content, you're almost certainly a spammer. [1] http://www.reddit.com/wiki/faq#wiki_what_constitutes_spam.3F http://www.reddit.com/wiki/faq#wiki_what_constitutes_spam.3F
- alayne 13y agoYour own content != be a corporate shill / spammer.
- ggchappell 13y agoI'd go further and say it's misguided. I'd like to think that a single account's submissions can be thought of as a "channel", as on YouTube.
- davidw 13y agoI've always found that attitude of not promoting your own stuff annoying. If you took the time to write it and think about it, you should be proud of it! If you're just spamming, people will see it and vote accordingly.
- tptacek 13y agoSubmitting your own stuff is fine. It's when you mechanically submit everything that appears on your site that we start having problems.
- davidw 13y agoSure, and I think the difference is pretty clear to most reasonable people. What I take issue with is the idea that self-promotion is "bad".
- speeder 13y agoExcept HN blocks that I guess... At least I try to always make good submissions, and usually HN only let me submit twice every month...
- dfc 13y agoI'm curious about the submission throttling that you have experienced. You have 4 submissions from the last month (last 30 days) and 9 submissions for the two previous months. What is being throttled?
- speeder 13y agoI don't know, but I rarely can submit new stuff... When I joined HN I submitted a lot, but suddenly I could not submit for two weeks, then sometimes I can submit twice or three times in a week, and then have to wait two weeks again...
- diminoten 13y agocurious why, though. If it's good, it'll be pushed upwards. If it's not it won't be. Why does it matter who does the submitting?
- Pxtl 13y agoExactly. A part of me was kind of sad that Digg's final phase of being a direct aggregator of news without "submission" but instead sucking the news straight from RSS feeds and pumping it into the hivemind upvote/downvote system... that this system tanked so badly and was so poorly done. Requiring that the "submitter" be some legitimate member of the community seems forced, as long as it's not high-frequency spam.
- anigbrowl 13y agoI don't mind that, but it should be posted transparently in the 'about' field of his HN profile, along with a link and contact. If you're on HN to promote your brand then journalistic ethics, as well as basic respect for other community members, suggests that disclosure of interest is appropriate.
- OTRAustin 13y agoThanks for the comment. I’ve had extensive dialogue with Hacker News moderators about submitting Daily Dot stories. It’s something we do sparingly, with great caution, thought, and discussion. We take HN very seriously and want to ensure that we only contribute quality content that’s in line with the rules and standards. We value the community here, and we’ll make more of an effort moving forward to submit links from other parts of the Web.
- agravier 13y agoDon't hesitate to join the discussions too.
- anigbrowl 13y agoI'm fine with it, but you should put your affiliation in your profile for everyone else to see. Mods - this ought to be a requirement of using HN as a promotional outlet. http://www.paulgraham.com/submarine.html http://www.paulgraham.com/submarine.html
- OTRAustin 13y agoAdding it now. Good suggestion.
- anigbrowl 13y agoThanks! I know HN is so minimal that it's easy to overlook.
- benologist 13y agoAnd what will you do for this blatant spam account? https://news.ycombinator.com/submitted?id=sexyalterego https://news.ycombinator.com/submitted?id=sexyalterego It's a shame the mods didn't shitlist your domain entirely, you're obviously here just to exploit HN.
- hayksaakian 13y agoI thought for a second that they might be changing, but this basically proves me wrong.