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I'm not sure I can pinpoint why, but I have grown to dislike Firefox more and more with each release. First it was the memory leak issues that were there for a

I'm not sure I can pinpoint why, but I have grown to dislike Firefox more and more with each release. First it was the memory leak issues that were there for a long time, then it was the feature creep of things I didn't care about, then it was Mozilla's stances on formats and junk that seemed a bit to self-interested, and then Mozilla making their own OS instead of just making webOS or Android more awesome. It's weird, but I get the vibe that Mozilla is sort of selfish and is becoming less relevant over time. That is a stark contrast to Firefox making the web awesome back in the pre 1.0 days. Maybe they haven't changed and I have, but it's kind of odd

Ygg2 13y ago
Ok, but I've learn to take a liking to Firefox. And more. Their initiatives have pushed web further and further. Subjectively, I like their initatives a bit more than GOOGs so far. And there is the whole PRISM fiasco. Their experiment with FxOS will repay itself as their API will make way into a W3C standard for mobile connectivity.
mehrzad 13y ago
They need to make money; would Android let them do that?
- claudius 13y ago
  Even if Android let them make money, it is broken beyond repair with its funny idea to run everything in Java sandboxes, invent a new packaging format and releasing source code months after the actual release. No thank you.
ww520 13y ago
Mozilla selfish? May be to a few of the for-profit competing companies. I like Firefox more and more. Their memory leak issues have been fixed. Their memory leaks in add-on have been contained. Mozilla make other tech besides browsers to advance the state of computing - Persona, Rust, Thunderbird, PDF.js, asm.js, FirefoxOS, etc. All incredibly useful and innovative. All these benefit most people and advance the web.
brownbat 13y ago
> It's weird, but I get the vibe that Mozilla is sort of selfish and is becoming less relevant over time. Funny, I'm starting to swing the other way. I keep wondering how we let a web advertiser on all our boxes. The dominant browser shapes standards. It was true with Navigator, it was true with IE. Decisions on cookies, tracking, even some protocol designs over the next ten years will occasionally pit the interests of users against the interests of advertisers. I like Google, a lot. But I do not trust Google to lobby on my behalf on these issues. (Also, I really miss Ubiquity.)

Ygg2 13y ago

Ok, but I've learn to take a liking to Firefox. And more. Their initiatives have pushed web further and further. Subjectively, I like their initatives a bit more than GOOGs so far. And there is the whole PRISM fiasco. Their experiment with FxOS will repay itself as their API will make way into a W3C standard for mobile connectivity.

mehrzad 13y ago

They need to make money; would Android let them do that?

claudius 13y ago
Even if Android let them make money, it is broken beyond repair with its funny idea to run everything in Java sandboxes, invent a new packaging format and releasing source code months after the actual release. No thank you.

ww520 13y ago

Mozilla selfish? May be to a few of the for-profit competing companies. I like Firefox more and more. Their memory leak issues have been fixed. Their memory leaks in add-on have been contained. Mozilla make other tech besides browsers to advance the state of computing - Persona, Rust, Thunderbird, PDF.js, asm.js, FirefoxOS, etc. All incredibly useful and innovative. All these benefit most people and advance the web.

brownbat 13y ago

> It's weird, but I get the vibe that Mozilla is sort of selfish and is becoming less relevant over time. Funny, I'm starting to swing the other way. I keep wondering how we let a web advertiser on all our boxes. The dominant browser shapes standards. It was true with Navigator, it was true with IE. Decisions on cookies, tracking, even some protocol designs over the next ten years will occasionally pit the interests of users against the interests of advertisers. I like Google, a lot. But I do not trust Google to lobby on my behalf on these issues. (Also, I really miss Ubiquity.)