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>"this specific article has absolutely no real reasons why you _should_ use Microsoft" He does give some reasons, which might not apply to everyone is another

>"this specific article has absolutely no real reasons why you _should_ use Microsoft" He does give some reasons, which might not apply to everyone is another thing: (from the article) Because I love C#. Because "MS is expensive" is a myth. Because of Visual Studio Of all the three I am very agreed with the third one. I wish it would be different but I haven't used a better alternative to VS so far (XCode, Eclipse, Netbeans, etc. just didn't work for me for several reasons )

free652 13y ago
Wow I hate VS so much, Eclipse is so much better! I guess it's just personal preference. I like C# a little more than Java, but I cant stand assemblies. Jars are much easier to handle. edit: Troll? Not. Like a very simple thing: quick watch in debug blocks the edit window? Really WTF?! I have to move it the second screen to see the actual code. I can name a lot of these small annoyances.
- hackinthebochs 13y ago
  I can't help but feel like you're trolling. Eclipse is a slow, bloated, feature-laking pile of crap. I honestly can't believe anyone would prefer it to, well, just about anything else. I've used it and I get by on it when necessary, but in terms of preference its at the bottom of my list.
  - circuiter 13y ago
    > "Eclipse is a slow, bloated, feature-laking pile of crap." You should try Kepler. Some amazing performance improvements out of the box.
  - RyanZAG 13y ago
    Rubbish. Use the latest version with an SSD with 8GB ram and it flies - SSD and ram are cheap enough to not be a barrier to entry, either. It's got more features than any other IDE I can think of, as well as a pretty huge library of plugins. Sounds like you're the one that is trolling. If Eclipse really was that bad, nobody would use it, and it wouldn't be probably the most widely used IDE in the world.
    - hackinthebochs 13y ago
      >If Eclipse really was that bad, nobody would use it, and it wouldn't be probably the most widely used IDE in the world I don't think this means much. It has (poor) support for just about every language under the sun and its free so of course its going to be widely used. It has many features for Java, but features for other languages quickly fall off a cliff. But its the slowness that is a showstopper for me unless I absolutely must go with eclipse. Yes, eventually computer technology will advance to the point where its bloated codebase is no longer a liability, and perhaps we're approaching that. I use the Juno release occasionally for python programming and everything I've mentioned still applies. Personally I'm not a big fan of plugins in my IDEs: they always feel slow and clunky with a "bolted on" feel. This has been true of every IDE + plugin environment I've tried so far.
- TheAnimus 13y ago
  >Troll? Not. If you had said IntelliJ I might have believed it.
brianpgordon 13y ago
Excuse me sir or ma'am, do you have a moment to talk about the Good News that is IntelliJ? :)
sixothree 13y ago
And the list seems to be missing the most important point. The .Net Framework is extremely powerful and extensive. The number of problems the framework has prevented me from needing to solve is staggering. We get work done here, fast. Eg. Recently I had to convert times from any random time zone into another random timezone accounting for daylight savings etc. I cannot imagine having to solve that problem in just about any other language suggested in this comment section.
- regularfry 13y ago
  Anything with access to jodatime (or nodatime, for that matter) would find that a pretty trivial problem. In my experience you get more built-in with .net, but richer third-party ecosystems elsewhere.

free652 13y ago

Wow I hate VS so much, Eclipse is so much better! I guess it's just personal preference. I like C# a little more than Java, but I cant stand assemblies. Jars are much easier to handle. edit: Troll? Not. Like a very simple thing: quick watch in debug blocks the edit window? Really WTF?! I have to move it the second screen to see the actual code. I can name a lot of these small annoyances.

hackinthebochs 13y ago
I can't help but feel like you're trolling. Eclipse is a slow, bloated, feature-laking pile of crap. I honestly can't believe anyone would prefer it to, well, just about anything else. I've used it and I get by on it when necessary, but in terms of preference its at the bottom of my list.
- circuiter 13y ago
  > "Eclipse is a slow, bloated, feature-laking pile of crap." You should try Kepler. Some amazing performance improvements out of the box.
- RyanZAG 13y ago
  Rubbish. Use the latest version with an SSD with 8GB ram and it flies - SSD and ram are cheap enough to not be a barrier to entry, either. It's got more features than any other IDE I can think of, as well as a pretty huge library of plugins. Sounds like you're the one that is trolling. If Eclipse really was that bad, nobody would use it, and it wouldn't be probably the most widely used IDE in the world.
  - hackinthebochs 13y ago
    >If Eclipse really was that bad, nobody would use it, and it wouldn't be probably the most widely used IDE in the world I don't think this means much. It has (poor) support for just about every language under the sun and its free so of course its going to be widely used. It has many features for Java, but features for other languages quickly fall off a cliff. But its the slowness that is a showstopper for me unless I absolutely must go with eclipse. Yes, eventually computer technology will advance to the point where its bloated codebase is no longer a liability, and perhaps we're approaching that. I use the Juno release occasionally for python programming and everything I've mentioned still applies. Personally I'm not a big fan of plugins in my IDEs: they always feel slow and clunky with a "bolted on" feel. This has been true of every IDE + plugin environment I've tried so far.
TheAnimus 13y ago
>Troll? Not. If you had said IntelliJ I might have believed it.

brianpgordon 13y ago

Excuse me sir or ma'am, do you have a moment to talk about the Good News that is IntelliJ? :)

sixothree 13y ago

And the list seems to be missing the most important point. The .Net Framework is extremely powerful and extensive. The number of problems the framework has prevented me from needing to solve is staggering. We get work done here, fast. Eg. Recently I had to convert times from any random time zone into another random timezone accounting for daylight savings etc. I cannot imagine having to solve that problem in just about any other language suggested in this comment section.

regularfry 13y ago
Anything with access to jodatime (or nodatime, for that matter) would find that a pretty trivial problem. In my experience you get more built-in with .net, but richer third-party ecosystems elsewhere.