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I just had an intriguing thought. Wouldn't it be interesting/ironic to see BAH made a target of anon hacking, successfully penetrated, and publicly embarrassed

by pvnick 13y ago

I just had an intriguing thought. Wouldn't it be interesting/ironic to see BAH made a target of anon hacking, successfully penetrated, and publicly embarrassed further than the Snowden fiasco? I think Feinstein might pop a blood vessel.

philar 13y ago
Why? This isn't a case of some shadowy organization actively trying to spy on americans, a la HBGary. BAH had a contract to support netops and hired Snowden. Not exactly the same thing Barr did as CEO.
- pvnick 13y ago
  I'm not advocating or encouraging the hacking (I'd like to think I'm smarter than that). I'm saying for the case of the national discussion happening at the moment regarding government contractors carrying out national security jobs, I would be interested to see the response of folks like Feinstein, who publicly discussed limiting contractor access [1]. If contractors aren't trusted with secrets, the outcome plays right into Assange's theory of the locking down of information and subsequent paralysis of an authoritarian conspiracy [2]. [1] http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-06-14/feinstein-eyes-limit-on-contractor-access-after-nsa-leaks.html http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-06-14/feinstein-eyes-limi... [2] http://cryptome.org/0002/ja-conspiracies.pdf http://cryptome.org/0002/ja-conspiracies.pdf
  - philar 13y ago
    I agree that it would likely yield an interesting discussion. The fact is federal contractors are responsible for almost all cases of espionage in the past 10 years. Good links too.
- CamperBob2 13y ago
  BAH had a contract to support netops and hired Snowden. Ah, the modern version of the Nuremberg defense. "It was in the contract."
hkmurakami 13y ago
Given how misguided Anonymous has proven to be at times in selecting their targets (a drawback of such a loose conglomeration of an organization), so I'd say that this is definitely in the realm of possibility.
diminoten 13y ago
BAH has a team of security experts that would shut down Anonymous attacks faster than you can say, "lulz".
- count 13y ago
  That's funny.
  - diminoten 13y ago
    Anonymous doesn't work the way you think they work. They hit easy targets, and lack the sophistication to hit anything else. BAH is, I assure you, not an easy target for any hacktivist group.
    - count 13y ago
      Heh, you mean like this: http://www.forbes.com/sites/andygreenberg/2011/07/11/anonymous-hackers-breach-booz-allen-hamilton-dump-90000-military-email-addresses/ http://www.forbes.com/sites/andygreenberg/2011/07/11/anonymo...
tptacek 13y ago
I think it would be sad. I wouldn't laugh, even though I find Booz Allen distasteful. Intrusions of this sort are criminal for good reason. In the most likely case, the net effect would be more 18-28 year olds being prosecuted for felonies, while a chorus of message board ghouls cheers more people like them on.
bwf93 13y ago
That happened a while ago http://www.forbes.com/sites/andygreenberg/2011/07/11/anonymous-hackers-breach-booz-allen-hamilton-dump-90000-military-email-addresses/ http://www.forbes.com/sites/andygreenberg/2011/07/11/anonymo...

by pvnick 13y ago

philar 13y ago

Why? This isn't a case of some shadowy organization actively trying to spy on americans, a la HBGary. BAH had a contract to support netops and hired Snowden. Not exactly the same thing Barr did as CEO.

pvnick 13y ago
I'm not advocating or encouraging the hacking (I'd like to think I'm smarter than that). I'm saying for the case of the national discussion happening at the moment regarding government contractors carrying out national security jobs, I would be interested to see the response of folks like Feinstein, who publicly discussed limiting contractor access [1]. If contractors aren't trusted with secrets, the outcome plays right into Assange's theory of the locking down of information and subsequent paralysis of an authoritarian conspiracy [2]. [1] http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-06-14/feinstein-eyes-limit-on-contractor-access-after-nsa-leaks.html http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-06-14/feinstein-eyes-limi... [2] http://cryptome.org/0002/ja-conspiracies.pdf http://cryptome.org/0002/ja-conspiracies.pdf
- philar 13y ago
  I agree that it would likely yield an interesting discussion. The fact is federal contractors are responsible for almost all cases of espionage in the past 10 years. Good links too.
CamperBob2 13y ago
BAH had a contract to support netops and hired Snowden. Ah, the modern version of the Nuremberg defense. "It was in the contract."

hkmurakami 13y ago

Given how misguided Anonymous has proven to be at times in selecting their targets (a drawback of such a loose conglomeration of an organization), so I'd say that this is definitely in the realm of possibility.

diminoten 13y ago

BAH has a team of security experts that would shut down Anonymous attacks faster than you can say, "lulz".

count 13y ago
That's funny.
- diminoten 13y ago
  Anonymous doesn't work the way you think they work. They hit easy targets, and lack the sophistication to hit anything else. BAH is, I assure you, not an easy target for any hacktivist group.
  - count 13y ago
    Heh, you mean like this: http://www.forbes.com/sites/andygreenberg/2011/07/11/anonymous-hackers-breach-booz-allen-hamilton-dump-90000-military-email-addresses/ http://www.forbes.com/sites/andygreenberg/2011/07/11/anonymo...

tptacek 13y ago

I think it would be sad. I wouldn't laugh, even though I find Booz Allen distasteful. Intrusions of this sort are criminal for good reason. In the most likely case, the net effect would be more 18-28 year olds being prosecuted for felonies, while a chorus of message board ghouls cheers more people like them on.

bwf93 13y ago

That happened a while ago http://www.forbes.com/sites/andygreenberg/2011/07/11/anonymous-hackers-breach-booz-allen-hamilton-dump-90000-military-email-addresses/ http://www.forbes.com/sites/andygreenberg/2011/07/11/anonymo...