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To suggest that Palantir systems are not used in all kinds of defense, law enforcement, and counter-terrorism operations is to deny reality. Lessig, being of su
by moham 13y ago
To suggest that Palantir systems are not used in all kinds of defense, law enforcement, and counter-terrorism operations is to deny reality. Lessig, being of such stature in his field, surely knows who they are and what they do. Why he mentions them by name not only in the Moyers interview but also in an article one can only speculate. Via twitter he says he plugs "ideas, not companies" but didn't address if he knew what other business Palantir gets up to.
Can anybody show evidence of the "audit trail" Palantir uses to ensure citizens know what's being done with their data by NCTC, FBI and others?
- jaekwon 13y agoThe the government's claims of transparency and audibility of the NSA's PRISM program is analogous (if not directly related) to the claims of Palantir's. Search for "immutable auditing" below: http://www.palantir.com/wp-content/static/pg-analysis-blog/2009/07/Privacy-and-Civil-Liberties-are-in-Palantirs-DNA.pdf http://www.palantir.com/wp-content/static/pg-analysis-blog/2... But even with such an audit trail to the core, it is known that it isn't sufficient: http://www.informatik.uni-freiburg.de/~accorsi/papers/imf09.pdf http://www.informatik.uni-freiburg.de/~accorsi/papers/imf09.... I wager that for any given system that touts immutable audibility, there is a way to hack around it. Privacy through automated means is impossible. At best it is a kind of DRM that the NSA can easily work around secretly if it wanted it. What we should be advocating instead is Perfect Forward Secrecy in our internet architecture, and the dismantling of PRISM and related data centers.