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"... The information appears in secret documents obtained by whistleblower Edward Snowden that ====> SPIEGEL has in part seen. <==== A "top secret" 2010 docum

by e3pi 13y ago

"... The information appears in secret documents obtained by whistleblower Edward Snowden that ====> SPIEGEL has in part seen. <==== A "top secret" 2010 document describes how the secret service attacked the EU's diplomatic representation in Washington." ... "... For weeks now, new details about Prism and other surveillance programs have been emerging that had been compiled by whistleblower Snowden." Am I correct inferring there are Snowden leaked docs passing about beyond distributors The Guardian and the Washington Post? For example, suppose Wikileaks have the entire 'Snowden stack' and its worker bees' 'discovery' pass up to a dispatcher deciding: if, who -receives it? This has been going on for the past ~month? This is the first evidence I've encountered. Anything else?

nieve 13y ago
Snowden has been releasing documents steadily & feeding stories to other outlets(1) and has stated he has quite a few more stashed with people who will decrypt and distribute the full set immediately if anything happens to him. Given that what we've seen has been cherry-picked from what appears to be a much larger collection and he's stated he has more, the odds are pretty high. He's probably passing some to Wikileaks, but I'd be surprised if they have the full dump. (1) The South China Morning Post out of Hong Kong broke the PacNet story: http://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/article/1266875/exclusive-us-hacked-pacnet-asia-pacific-fibre-optic-network-operator http://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/article/1266875/exclusive...
jlgreco 13y ago
You can use asterisks for emphasis.
weinzierl 13y ago
Coauthor of the Spiegel article is Laura Poitras. If I remember the story correctly she was the first person contacted by Snowden regarding the leaked documents (even before Greenwald). She is probably the link between Snowden and Spiegel.
- antocv 13y ago
  Poor woman. Lets make a list of all the journalists that are a link between Wikileaks/Manning/Snowden and a journal, then we can look back 5, 10 years from now to see in what accident they each died.
  - krapp 13y ago
    I think the NSA can read a byline all on their own.
- e3pi 13y ago
  Excellent field work Ludwig, again HN's Munchen's desk amply demonstrates operatives in the field return the best and most decisive intel. By the way, I encountered last night Walter Ruttmann's 1927 fascinating hour long classic silent film celebrating Weimar Berlin: The few autos, centric of trains, many horses, trams, new to me architecture long ago gone, men in hats, intense machinists in factories, and foundries' men at work: http://archive.org/details/BerlinSymphonyofaGreatCity http://archive.org/details/BerlinSymphonyofaGreatCity You familiar with this? My favorite Paul Graham essay you forensically dissected with your profiling tools, wc: 362, is `The Roots of Lisp'. I do the most rudimentary lisp, but this Conway introduction shared with me PG's enthusiasm and excitement focusing on lisp's eval, which I've wondered about forever and still do.

by e3pi 13y ago

nieve 13y ago

Snowden has been releasing documents steadily & feeding stories to other outlets(1) and has stated he has quite a few more stashed with people who will decrypt and distribute the full set immediately if anything happens to him. Given that what we've seen has been cherry-picked from what appears to be a much larger collection and he's stated he has more, the odds are pretty high. He's probably passing some to Wikileaks, but I'd be surprised if they have the full dump. (1) The South China Morning Post out of Hong Kong broke the PacNet story: http://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/article/1266875/exclusive-us-hacked-pacnet-asia-pacific-fibre-optic-network-operator http://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/article/1266875/exclusive...

jlgreco 13y ago

You can use asterisks for emphasis.

weinzierl 13y ago

Coauthor of the Spiegel article is Laura Poitras. If I remember the story correctly she was the first person contacted by Snowden regarding the leaked documents (even before Greenwald). She is probably the link between Snowden and Spiegel.

antocv 13y ago
Poor woman. Lets make a list of all the journalists that are a link between Wikileaks/Manning/Snowden and a journal, then we can look back 5, 10 years from now to see in what accident they each died.
- krapp 13y ago
  I think the NSA can read a byline all on their own.
e3pi 13y ago
Excellent field work Ludwig, again HN's Munchen's desk amply demonstrates operatives in the field return the best and most decisive intel. By the way, I encountered last night Walter Ruttmann's 1927 fascinating hour long classic silent film celebrating Weimar Berlin: The few autos, centric of trains, many horses, trams, new to me architecture long ago gone, men in hats, intense machinists in factories, and foundries' men at work: http://archive.org/details/BerlinSymphonyofaGreatCity http://archive.org/details/BerlinSymphonyofaGreatCity You familiar with this? My favorite Paul Graham essay you forensically dissected with your profiling tools, wc: 362, is `The Roots of Lisp'. I do the most rudimentary lisp, but this Conway introduction shared with me PG's enthusiasm and excitement focusing on lisp's eval, which I've wondered about forever and still do.