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I guess it depends on what you're used to, but if you are a highly qualified young employee your life is pretty miserable. You make marginally more after tax an
by muyuu 13y ago
I guess it depends on what you're used to, but if you are a highly qualified young employee your life is pretty miserable. You make marginally more after tax and expenses (from living in the cities where qualified jobs are) over the unemployed/fraudsters living in the countryside. And you are overworked and overstressed.
For these people the best alternative is just leaving. Which paints a gloomy picture for France's future, as newer generations are brain-drained.
Subsisting is not a particularly desirable situation, and it's not sustainable when more people start jumping on the benefit bandwagon. Eventually the credit money from the ECB will run out and then you have an explosive situation in your hands.
- nraynaud 13y agoI've never paid more than 12% taxes and I've always lived alone in 50-70 sq.m. apartments (actually I tend to take big stuff because I can, but when it's time to clean I hate it) . I used to eat 5 days a week at the restaurant (but I don't think it's good for my health). And I lived in Montbéliard, Besançon, and Montpellier. I think as a French software engineer I did not have bad material living conditions. And I'm far from skilled. I hired people with good salaries in Montpellier too. But there is one important thing: I move around the country when work calls for it. I don't defend my castle.
- johnchristopher 13y agoAre you married with children ? If you aren't: would you move too if you had wife and children ?
- nraynaud 13y agoIs being maried and having kids a specific French problem? I don't and that's part of the trick, you can't blame the country or whatever when you consciously took decisions that might hinder your bottom line. And being maried with kids is very uncommon for a young talented developer in this country, we get married and have kids later in life than in the US. That's the post i was answering to. For famillies there are other stuff to funel state money to their pockets.
- muyuu 13y agoBeing unable to have a decent living space and being unable to start a family are not specific French problems, but they are quite prevalent in France. It's pretty bad that it's becoming the new normality for a lot of people. And I think a lot of people will have to continue lowering their expectations until they get close to mere subsistence + a few trendy gadgets to keep them busy.
- johnchristopher 13y ago> Is being maried and having kids a specific French problem? I am inclined to think it's easier to move around with a family in the US than in Europe because of the language barrier.