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This is rather embarrassing. If OP had dedicated BW of 8MB I wouldn't be surprised if ISP started charging $200+/month for it. The whole reason why we share BW

by jsnk 13y ago

This is rather embarrassing. If OP had dedicated BW of 8MB I wouldn't be surprised if ISP started charging $200+/month for it. The whole reason why we share BW is because it's way cheaper and resources become more efficiently delegated as we have changes in network usage by different people. Just go with the argument that $80/month is too expensive and explain why. Don't trifle with notion that we don't get dedicated BW.

AnthonyMouse 13y ago
Who said anything about dedicated bandwidth? There is nothing wrong with the ISP putting more than 1000 8Mbps users on an 8Gbps uplink. That's just basic network engineering. But there is a difference between shared bandwidth and insufficient shared bandwidth. If your network's uplink is at in excess of 80% of capacity during peak usage periods, it's time to expand capacity. Follow that simple rule and all your 8Mbps customers will get at least 8Mbps, notwithstanding that they don't each have 8Mbps of dedicated bandwidth. Obviously that doesn't include the rare outlier demand spikes, e.g. what happens to the network during a sudden disaster when many people all at once want to communicate with loved ones, but even there you won't have literally 100% of your customers using their full allocation at once. Which means that as long as you can predict within an order of magnitude the peak usage during such events, you can install capacity sufficient to carry it, which will be less than 100% dedicated bandwidth for everyone. And let's face it: We want the network to keep working during a disaster if at all possible; that's pretty important from a national security perspective (and therefore if nothing else from a public relations perspective for the carrier). Granted installing capacity based on expected peak demand means that if people start using more bandwidth then more capacity will have to be installed and prices will have to increase. But so what? Isn't that how the market is supposed to function? Demand goes up, price goes up. If you don't need a specified amount of bandwidth then don't pay for it and subscribe to a slower package. But if you pay for it then you should be right to expect to get it.

by jsnk 13y ago

AnthonyMouse 13y ago

Who said anything about dedicated bandwidth? There is nothing wrong with the ISP putting more than 1000 8Mbps users on an 8Gbps uplink. That's just basic network engineering. But there is a difference between shared bandwidth and insufficient shared bandwidth. If your network's uplink is at in excess of 80% of capacity during peak usage periods, it's time to expand capacity. Follow that simple rule and all your 8Mbps customers will get at least 8Mbps, notwithstanding that they don't each have 8Mbps of dedicated bandwidth. Obviously that doesn't include the rare outlier demand spikes, e.g. what happens to the network during a sudden disaster when many people all at once want to communicate with loved ones, but even there you won't have literally 100% of your customers using their full allocation at once. Which means that as long as you can predict within an order of magnitude the peak usage during such events, you can install capacity sufficient to carry it, which will be less than 100% dedicated bandwidth for everyone. And let's face it: We want the network to keep working during a disaster if at all possible; that's pretty important from a national security perspective (and therefore if nothing else from a public relations perspective for the carrier). Granted installing capacity based on expected peak demand means that if people start using more bandwidth then more capacity will have to be installed and prices will have to increase. But so what? Isn't that how the market is supposed to function? Demand goes up, price goes up. If you don't need a specified amount of bandwidth then don't pay for it and subscribe to a slower package. But if you pay for it then you should be right to expect to get it.