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I'd argue that there are several countries that are more free than the United States in both terms of social issues and economics that make better role models.
by cpursley 13y ago
I'd argue that there are several countries that are more free than the United States in both terms of social issues and economics that make better role models.
This might all be 'news' to the tech community - but Libertarian circles have been talking about this trend towards totalitarianism since what, the 70s? It might feel like it all started after 9/11, but this framework has been building up for decades. In fact, it's the natural trajectory to unopposed empire.
The only thing I hope is that foreign nations accept us liberty loving Americans into their arms when the expatriation wave begins and are able to distinguish us from the assholes. It's coming - just look at the uptick in expatriation: www.nestmann.com/expatriation-statistics There's even publications dedicated to this like www.sovereignman.com and www.escapefromamerica.com/about
- jcromartie 13y agoWhich countries would those be? I'm really on the fence at the moment, between becoming active in trying to change politics for the better, or just packing up and going somewhere that doesn't spy on literally everybody and throw you in jail over a stupid joke or rap song on facebook.
- cpursley 13y agoWell, it depends on your political preference. Strong social liberty or strong economic liberty or something in between? It depends on what's important to you. Economic Freedom: http://www.heritage.org/index/ http://www.heritage.org/index/ Democracy Index: https://portoncv.gov.cv/dhub/porton.por_global.open_file?p_doc_id=1034 https://portoncv.gov.cv/dhub/porton.por_global.open_file?p_d... Human Development Index: http://hdr.undp.org/hdr4press/press/outreach/figures/HDI_Trends_2013.pdf http://hdr.undp.org/hdr4press/press/outreach/figures/HDI_Tre... Gun Freedom: http://www.freeexistence.org/gunindex.html http://www.freeexistence.org/gunindex.html Press Freedom: http://en.rsf.org/press-freedom-index-2013,1054.html http://en.rsf.org/press-freedom-index-2013,1054.html Drug Freedom: http://www.freeexistence.org/drugindex.html http://www.freeexistence.org/drugindex.html Various other stats: http://www.eiu.com/default.aspx http://www.eiu.com/default.aspx Just notice the trends - which countries are you seeing at the tops of most of the lists?
- vacri 13y agoIt's curious that you mention libertarianism in your first comment, but the leaders in most of those lists are the social democracies.
- cpursley 13y agoJust providing options. Personally, I'm skewed towards economic freedom.
- vacri 13y agoSure, though there are plenty of small government countries out there that aren't hell-holes (eg Vanuatu). It's just that social democracy is really quite philosophically different to libertarianism - the underlying ethos being 'everyone gets support' instead of 'every man for himself'.