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> I guess what I'm trying to ask is, what is holding Django back? Why do you think it's being held back? I'm just not seeing the barriers in using newer tech.

by gtaylor 13y ago

> I guess what I'm trying to ask is, what is holding Django back? Why do you think it's being held back? I'm just not seeing the barriers in using newer tech. We stay pretty cutting edge, and haven't had any issues doing so with Django.

acjohnson55 13y ago
Because you don't hear about it growing in popularity or being used in the hot new stuff on HN.
- adamauckland 13y ago
  MTV Video use it. Yahoo use it. Django is massive, but it's like toilet paper or condoms. If you use it, you probably aren't going to blog about it because it's just doing it's job. Plus, it's not hot new stuff, they largely attempt to make upgrading easy. Django to me is what .Net is to C#. It's the libraries around the Python language that make it useful.
- po 13y ago
  I don't think Django is being held back at all. It's healthier than it has ever been. Consider that the reason you don't hear about it isn't due to it not being used but instead to a cultural difference in the people who choose it. I don't think Django developers are particularly good at blogging and self-promotion compared to other projects. They communicate through mailing lists, IRC, twitter, email and documentation. I'm ok with that. When I started my project, I evaluated a lot of different options and chose Django. One of the big factors was a cultural commitment to documentation and slow measured changes with lots of thought put into backward compatibility. Blog posts about hot startups that are using it is low on my list. (and if you do your research you will see that a surprising number of hot new startups are in fact using it)
- gtaylor 13y ago
  I've seen it growing in popularity firsthand. The projects I'm involved with have seen large increases in contributors, mailing list activity, traffic on Github, downloads on PyPi over the last four or five years. PyAtl and some of the other local groups with Djangonauts in them have grown sharply over the last two years (in the Atlanta area). People from other backgrounds are more likely than ever to at least have an idea about what Django is (whereas when I was starting back in 2006 people would just stare at you). I like playing with Go and the other newer/trendy stuff, but the thing I like about Django is that I can just sit down and get work done fast. It's not sexy, it's not clever, it's not magical, but I don't want it to be any of those things. As a side effect of this, a huge percentage of the population is too busy getting stuff done with Django to blog and interact, aside from asking questions and getting advice. You know, like Instagram, Pinterest, NASA, National Geographic, Disqus, Mozilla, The Onion, PBS, and many more.

by gtaylor 13y ago

acjohnson55 13y ago

Because you don't hear about it growing in popularity or being used in the hot new stuff on HN.

adamauckland 13y ago
MTV Video use it. Yahoo use it. Django is massive, but it's like toilet paper or condoms. If you use it, you probably aren't going to blog about it because it's just doing it's job. Plus, it's not hot new stuff, they largely attempt to make upgrading easy. Django to me is what .Net is to C#. It's the libraries around the Python language that make it useful.
po 13y ago
I don't think Django is being held back at all. It's healthier than it has ever been. Consider that the reason you don't hear about it isn't due to it not being used but instead to a cultural difference in the people who choose it. I don't think Django developers are particularly good at blogging and self-promotion compared to other projects. They communicate through mailing lists, IRC, twitter, email and documentation. I'm ok with that. When I started my project, I evaluated a lot of different options and chose Django. One of the big factors was a cultural commitment to documentation and slow measured changes with lots of thought put into backward compatibility. Blog posts about hot startups that are using it is low on my list. (and if you do your research you will see that a surprising number of hot new startups are in fact using it)
gtaylor 13y ago
I've seen it growing in popularity firsthand. The projects I'm involved with have seen large increases in contributors, mailing list activity, traffic on Github, downloads on PyPi over the last four or five years. PyAtl and some of the other local groups with Djangonauts in them have grown sharply over the last two years (in the Atlanta area). People from other backgrounds are more likely than ever to at least have an idea about what Django is (whereas when I was starting back in 2006 people would just stare at you). I like playing with Go and the other newer/trendy stuff, but the thing I like about Django is that I can just sit down and get work done fast. It's not sexy, it's not clever, it's not magical, but I don't want it to be any of those things. As a side effect of this, a huge percentage of the population is too busy getting stuff done with Django to blog and interact, aside from asking questions and getting advice. You know, like Instagram, Pinterest, NASA, National Geographic, Disqus, Mozilla, The Onion, PBS, and many more.