"....They're not Apple, they're not the low-end provider, they're not Nokia, so they are in the middle and they do relatively low volumes," "...It's difficult

"....They're not Apple, they're not the low-end provider, they're not Nokia, so they are in the middle and they do relatively low volumes," "...It's difficult to make great margins on that kind of volume - so I would say the outlook is quite negative them." aka Microsoft