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As someone who uses sublime everyday let's go through that list... Syntax / Code folding - feature for dealing with bad code. Solution: write good code. We do

by nahname 13y ago

As someone who uses sublime everyday let's go through that list... Syntax / Code folding - feature for dealing with bad code. Solution: write good code. We don't need additional cruft in the editor slowing it down. Terminal panel (specifically for windows) - Would actually be nice for windows users. I am not one. Probably why the console in sublime is so limited, supporting windows in this regard is terribly difficult. Matching HTML/XML tags - A package called 'All Autocomplete' already does this. Side by side comparison - use a diff tool. Theming of the sidebar - http://sublimetext.userecho.com/topic/19274-theming-of-the-sidebar/ http://sublimetext.userecho.com/topic/19274-theming-of-the-s... Printing - surprised this doesn't exist, surprised I never noticed. Armv7 or armv6 version of sublime text 2 for linux - I don't even know what to say about this one. Autocomplete hints - Sublime is a text editor, not an IDE. Have an API for Tooltips - Reasonible request. Documentation!!! - Reasonible request. Icons in the sidebar - Checkout 'Theme - Flatland' to see how this is done. Background transparency at the color scheme level - Couldn't care less. Move tabs to the title bar like in Google Chrome - Not sure what this means. Rename files/folders via Project Sidebar - Feature added. Better, or customizable match_brackets style - Can't say I've looked into this, probably a package exists. Add intellisense-like support - Sublime is a text editor, not an IDE. Double clicking in an empty tab area should create a new tab - Feature added. Side Bar API - Reasonible request. SCM integration - Packages exist. feature is useful Quickly going through that list, the biggest outstanding issues are documentation and printing. It's not really legitimate to say the developer is ignoring user feedback. It would appear that bad feedback is being ignored and good feedback is being added.

leeoniya 13y ago
- Syntax / Code folding i don't use code-folding either, but blaming the users for writing poor code is a pretty shitty excuse not to implement the most requested feature. - Matching HTML/XML tags - Better, or customizable match_brackets style just because something can be done via an extension, doesn't mean that it should be done that way. The most popular extensions, i think, belong in the core. Whether you think any of these points are valid is your personal opinion, against hundreds/thousands of others. If he didnt want to take user feedback seriously, then why bother with a prominent feature tracking system? EDIT: looks like Matching HTML/XML tags is implemented in the new beta (with some quirks). Unfortunately, the fact that the highlight style cannot be customized makes it just as useless as the existing, barely-noticeable match_brackets feature. Is it really that difficult to let users customize the editor's marking style?
- nahname 13y ago
  >Syntax / Code folding I was hesitant to add that comment, but it needs to be said. Pushing people into the pit of success is a good thing. Sucks to read 10,000 line files? Stop writing 10,000 line files. I also really like how fast sublime is. Coming from an IDE for about 6 years, this is one of the features I like the most. Code folding is bloat. >Whether you think any of these points are valid is your personal opinion I didn't post this under any other assumption. These are all my opinion, as a full time sublime user. >If he didnt want to take user feedback seriously, then why bother with a prominent feature tracking system? I would argue that he is taking user feedback seriously. One of the most difficult things to do with any product is to decide what feedback is valuable and what feedback is not. I think sublime is doing a very good job of this.
  - Groxx 13y ago
    Re folding: what about inherited codebases, via github or your company or whatever? That seems to me to be the vast majority of source code being read / edited in the world, and odds are you can't simply change it on a whim.
    - nahname 13y ago
      I think that pain is a great motivator to refactor the code base. I understand that pain, I have been there. But coming from an IDE that supported code folding, I can say two things about it. First, it only helps marginally. Second, it makes occurrences of large files even more prevalent.
  - Silhouette 13y ago
    Pushing people into the pit of success is a good thing. I'm not sure history supports that position, at least in the context of software development. For example, in C++ the syntax for the new-style type cast operators was made deliberately awkward. The argument was that casting is generally not to be encouraged, so doing it should be ugly. What this actually did was encourage almost everyone to ignore the new-style casts and just write the old C-style ones instead, because they worked and didn't make your lines 157 characters long. If you make software development tools, fighting against what software developers want to do is almost never a winning strategy IME. You promote better practices by providing better tools that make those practices easier, not by providing worse tools that make some things harder and hoping that will stop people doing those things instead of ignoring your inferior tools.
bingaling 13y ago
Printing can be done with packages that call enscript.
- levosmetalo 13y ago
  on windows?
vertex-four 13y ago
Actually, code folding is implemented, at least for Python. Mouseover the line numbers. Not that anyone should be doing it, but at least it's there.
- ansgri 13y ago
  It's implemented for almost everything, and has a good keyboard support. Guess it was there from the very beginnging.
Achshar 13y ago
> Move tabs to the title bar like in Google Chrome What it means is like chrome there should be no title bar. Precious vertical pixels wasted for something that is never used. Like chrome or most modern browsers have moved the tabs in the title bar sublime should do this too.
- iamntz 13y ago
  Press F11. Hide menu. There, problem fixed.
robryan 13y ago
You can theme the sidebar already. Using the theme flatland dark, pretty awesome improvement from the default. https://github.com/thinkpixellab/flatland https://github.com/thinkpixellab/flatland

by nahname 13y ago

leeoniya 13y ago

- Syntax / Code folding i don't use code-folding either, but blaming the users for writing poor code is a pretty shitty excuse not to implement the most requested feature. - Matching HTML/XML tags - Better, or customizable match_brackets style just because something can be done via an extension, doesn't mean that it should be done that way. The most popular extensions, i think, belong in the core. Whether you think any of these points are valid is your personal opinion, against hundreds/thousands of others. If he didnt want to take user feedback seriously, then why bother with a prominent feature tracking system? EDIT: looks like Matching HTML/XML tags is implemented in the new beta (with some quirks). Unfortunately, the fact that the highlight style cannot be customized makes it just as useless as the existing, barely-noticeable match_brackets feature. Is it really that difficult to let users customize the editor's marking style?

nahname 13y ago
>Syntax / Code folding I was hesitant to add that comment, but it needs to be said. Pushing people into the pit of success is a good thing. Sucks to read 10,000 line files? Stop writing 10,000 line files. I also really like how fast sublime is. Coming from an IDE for about 6 years, this is one of the features I like the most. Code folding is bloat. >Whether you think any of these points are valid is your personal opinion I didn't post this under any other assumption. These are all my opinion, as a full time sublime user. >If he didnt want to take user feedback seriously, then why bother with a prominent feature tracking system? I would argue that he is taking user feedback seriously. One of the most difficult things to do with any product is to decide what feedback is valuable and what feedback is not. I think sublime is doing a very good job of this.
- Groxx 13y ago
  Re folding: what about inherited codebases, via github or your company or whatever? That seems to me to be the vast majority of source code being read / edited in the world, and odds are you can't simply change it on a whim.
  - nahname 13y ago
    I think that pain is a great motivator to refactor the code base. I understand that pain, I have been there. But coming from an IDE that supported code folding, I can say two things about it. First, it only helps marginally. Second, it makes occurrences of large files even more prevalent.
- Silhouette 13y ago
  Pushing people into the pit of success is a good thing. I'm not sure history supports that position, at least in the context of software development. For example, in C++ the syntax for the new-style type cast operators was made deliberately awkward. The argument was that casting is generally not to be encouraged, so doing it should be ugly. What this actually did was encourage almost everyone to ignore the new-style casts and just write the old C-style ones instead, because they worked and didn't make your lines 157 characters long. If you make software development tools, fighting against what software developers want to do is almost never a winning strategy IME. You promote better practices by providing better tools that make those practices easier, not by providing worse tools that make some things harder and hoping that will stop people doing those things instead of ignoring your inferior tools.

bingaling 13y ago

Printing can be done with packages that call enscript.

levosmetalo 13y ago
on windows?

vertex-four 13y ago

Actually, code folding is implemented, at least for Python. Mouseover the line numbers. Not that anyone should be doing it, but at least it's there.

ansgri 13y ago
It's implemented for almost everything, and has a good keyboard support. Guess it was there from the very beginnging.

Achshar 13y ago

> Move tabs to the title bar like in Google Chrome What it means is like chrome there should be no title bar. Precious vertical pixels wasted for something that is never used. Like chrome or most modern browsers have moved the tabs in the title bar sublime should do this too.

iamntz 13y ago
Press F11. Hide menu. There, problem fixed.

robryan 13y ago

You can theme the sidebar already. Using the theme flatland dark, pretty awesome improvement from the default. https://github.com/thinkpixellab/flatland https://github.com/thinkpixellab/flatland