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This whole thing is such a farce. Ecuador doesn't care about human rights, and the US doesn't care that its enemies know that it's spying on them. It's diplomac
by mbateman 13y ago
This whole thing is such a farce. Ecuador doesn't care about human rights, and the US doesn't care that its enemies know that it's spying on them. It's diplomacy in the service of directing embarrassment.
- mistercow 13y agoIt seems that way to me too. What worries me is, once Ecuador has Snowden, how they might respond if the US tries using the carrot instead of the stick. It seems like Ecuador has every incentive to show that they can't be bullied (and grandstanding about human rights is a great medium for that), and also every incentive to show that they can be bribed. Of course, they might try to hold out and see if they can get some more high profile refugees first, but given that they don't seem to actually care about human rights, I'm not sure I see the downside to cashing in at some point, from their perspective. My biggest hope right now is that since Snowden seems to be extraordinarily on the ball regarding world politics, he has a better idea of the situation than I do.
- medell 13y agoI am withholding judgement as I don't know what to think after watching Oliver Stone's "documentary" South of the Border (free on YouTube) which constrasts directly with the content of Human Rights Watch: http://www.hrw.org/americas/ecuador http://www.hrw.org/americas/ecuador (I spent two months in Ecuador this year)
- 1337biz 13y agoIf you are interested in the South American situation just let me recommend you "Our brand is crisis". Might give you some further context for the situation and the role of Morales and it is a fascinating case study on steering public opinion.
- jcmoscon 13y agoEcuador's president came from Foro de Sao Paulo. If you don't know what Foro de Sao Paulo is you know nothing about Latin America politics.