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13 years wouldn't be reasonable if he wrote it in someone else's blood.
by cgag 13y ago
13 years wouldn't be reasonable if he wrote it in someone else's blood.
- mpyne 13y agoAs is repeatedly mentioned every single time a legal case hits the HN airwaves, the maximum sentence one might compose by sequentially stacking maximum penalties for all charges is not the sentence that is anywhere close to possibly being handed down for real. From one of anigbrowl's comments on here: " The maximum penalty for vandalism in California (which is what this case is about) is 3 years. It isn't possible to get a 13 year sentence for vandalism in California. In fact, since the defendant has no previous convictions for vandalism that I'm aware of I'm pretty sure the maximum penalty that can be imposed under CA law (CA PC 640.5/6) is community service and a $1000 fine. " https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5956128 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5956128
- PavlovsCat 13y agoThen what's the point of threatening something that draconian? Pure habit?
- rdouble 13y agoIf he ran 13 red lights he'd be assessed the penalty 13 times for that, too. I'm not sure why the number of charges multiplied by the penalty would be draconian. That's just arithmetic. Luckily, the legal system in the USA is flexible and he will just get a small fine and community service.
- infrec 13y agoI think you are missing the context of the question (mpyne's comment). If the max that will logically be handed down is way below the summed offenses, why is it being used? It seems like it's a threatening tactic and yes, draconian.
- rdouble 13y agoBut how else would you do it? You still have to let the guy know what the max sentence could be, whether it seems threatening or not.
- PavlovsCat 13y agoHe didn't run a red light with tons of steel though, he wrote words. Even if you consider property damage, fuck that comparison big time. Thankfully, "In fact, since the defendant has no previous convictions for vandalism that I'm aware of I'm pretty sure the maximum penalty that can be imposed under CA law (CA PC 640.5/6) is community service and a $1000 fine." seems to imply that at least in this case it is slightly more than "just arithmetic". This is a human we're talking about, too. Arithmetic, bleh.. speaking of that, if society gets to pay for the ill-meant fuckups of banks, why can't it pay for the well-meant fuckups of individuals? Who would even mention 13 years, even as a joke, in this context? I think that's my question. I understand that such idle threats are used to get people to give in without trial, and that's bad enough, but in this case, I still can't fathom someone saying or writing it with a straight face. Without stopping to think for a second. That it would not actually come to such a punishment is a small, but not sufficient consolation for me, I'm still puzzled.
- anigbrowl 13y agoWho would even mention 13 years, even as a joke, in this context? A lawyer, to drum up sympathetic media coverage for his client (and increase his own public profile). a reporter, to get eyeballs on a story. Seriously, just because you read it on a news site does not mean it is true.
- PavlovsCat 13y agoSeriously, just because you read it on a news site does not mean it is true. It also means it doesn't, so I don't see your point? A lawyer, to drum up sympathetic media coverage for his client (and increase his own public profile). a reporter, to get eyeballs on a story. Aaaaand: a prosecutor, to intimidate. Just because you leave out an option doesn't mean it's not one.
- anigbrowl 13y agoHe isn't being threatened with anything that draconian. It's bullshit reporting, designed to attract clicks from gullible people.