3 ms·

What is even more depressing is this: http://www.buzzfeed.com/rosiegray/exclusive-documents-illuminate-ecuadors-spying-practices http://www.buzzfeed.com/rosieg

What is even more depressing is this: http://www.buzzfeed.com/rosiegray/exclusive-documents-illuminate-ecuadors-spying-practices http://www.buzzfeed.com/rosiegray/exclusive-documents-illumi... I wonder who gave buzzfeed secret documents to make Ecuador look bad? Sigh.. The good part of the story was Ecuador's response.

mpyne 13y ago
"The people who provided BuzzFeed with these documents say that they attempted to leak them to WikiLeaks three days ago, but were unsuccessful. WikiLeaks spokesman Kristinn Hrafnsson called this claim “false” and said “No one in our team recognises having been approached with such material as you describe.”" Anyone want to try again with the line that WikiLeaks isn't simply opposed to the U.S. Government, but wrongdoing from governments around the world? Well WikiLeaks, here's your chance to "leak" it for real now that BuzzFeed has co-opted you.
- Volpe 13y ago
  Maybe goto http://wikileaks.org/ http://wikileaks.org/ There is more than US only leaks... Guess that wouldn't fit your narrative though, so maybe don't go.
  - mpyne 13y ago
    Well I went. Didn't see anything about the Ecuador leaks though. Should I wait another few months maybe? I did see Syria Files though, and was even briefly excited, but I see that WikiLeaks was able to work in a dig at the whole West in the synopsis alone so now I'm sad again.
    - Volpe 13y ago
      Are you saying that the files don't implicate 'western' companies/government? You are passing judgement on wikileaks becasue they don't have a leak... But I thought wikileaks was just an option for leaked documents, they don't proactively hunt leaks... Am I wrong on that?
      - mpyne 13y ago
        The persons who leaked to BuzzFeed tried to go to WikiLeaks three days before. WikiLeaks says they have no record of that so maybe the leakers simply couldn't figure out how to properly submit. But the story's been out for like 2-3 days now apparently, certainly would be useful for WikiLeaks to archive surveillance state abuses by Western democracies, no?
        Volpe 13y ago
        ... I'm sorry, I really don't understand your position. Wikileaks isn't an archiving system, it's a way to publish leaks... If Wikileaks is proven to be rejecting leaks (which is unproven allegations at the moment) then I could understand your point. But you are literally just believing some random on the internet, which could well be an effort by the US to discredit Wikileaks and Ecuador at the same time (purely speculation). What wikileaks do is not complicated, you can always create an alternative. They'd probably support your efforts.
Uchikoma 13y ago
Could someone fill me in on Buzzfeed? Their menu says LOL Win OMG Cute Trashy Fail WTF? What's Hot.

mpyne 13y ago

"The people who provided BuzzFeed with these documents say that they attempted to leak them to WikiLeaks three days ago, but were unsuccessful. WikiLeaks spokesman Kristinn Hrafnsson called this claim “false” and said “No one in our team recognises having been approached with such material as you describe.”" Anyone want to try again with the line that WikiLeaks isn't simply opposed to the U.S. Government, but wrongdoing from governments around the world? Well WikiLeaks, here's your chance to "leak" it for real now that BuzzFeed has co-opted you.

Volpe 13y ago
Maybe goto http://wikileaks.org/ http://wikileaks.org/ There is more than US only leaks... Guess that wouldn't fit your narrative though, so maybe don't go.
- mpyne 13y ago
  Well I went. Didn't see anything about the Ecuador leaks though. Should I wait another few months maybe? I did see Syria Files though, and was even briefly excited, but I see that WikiLeaks was able to work in a dig at the whole West in the synopsis alone so now I'm sad again.
  - Volpe 13y ago
    Are you saying that the files don't implicate 'western' companies/government? You are passing judgement on wikileaks becasue they don't have a leak... But I thought wikileaks was just an option for leaked documents, they don't proactively hunt leaks... Am I wrong on that?
    - mpyne 13y ago
      The persons who leaked to BuzzFeed tried to go to WikiLeaks three days before. WikiLeaks says they have no record of that so maybe the leakers simply couldn't figure out how to properly submit. But the story's been out for like 2-3 days now apparently, certainly would be useful for WikiLeaks to archive surveillance state abuses by Western democracies, no?
      - Volpe 13y ago
        ... I'm sorry, I really don't understand your position. Wikileaks isn't an archiving system, it's a way to publish leaks... If Wikileaks is proven to be rejecting leaks (which is unproven allegations at the moment) then I could understand your point. But you are literally just believing some random on the internet, which could well be an effort by the US to discredit Wikileaks and Ecuador at the same time (purely speculation). What wikileaks do is not complicated, you can always create an alternative. They'd probably support your efforts.

Uchikoma 13y ago

Could someone fill me in on Buzzfeed? Their menu says LOL Win OMG Cute Trashy Fail WTF? What's Hot.