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A lot of people will point and laugh at HURD, calling it a really sad project or whatever. Why? Considering the small number of developers, it has come along sp
by rookieMP 13y ago
A lot of people will point and laugh at HURD, calling it a really sad project or whatever. Why? Considering the small number of developers, it has come along spectacularly. Over time, HURD has been improving at a decently consistent rate. I remember a time when it was nearly impossible to get it running even on QEMU. God damn people, sure it's missing features; but those features don't inhibit it running. I, for one, am glad that they decided to get it stable before they get it fast.
I will always wait for the day I can say my computer runs GNU. Nothing else, just GNU.
- papsosouid 13y agoWhy? Because in the time HURD has sat around trying to figure out whose code to use and call HURD, other people have actually written useful kernels. Minix for example.
- rookieMP 13y agoMinix was first released in 87, three years before development on HURD even began. Yeah, okay, that was just nitpicking. But they're not doing that anymore, so why bother complaining about it anymore? Sure, it's not up to snuff yet, but perhaps it will be decently soon. Development on HURD has really surged in the past year or two, I'd like to say.
- papsosouid 13y ago>Minix was first released in 87, three years before development on HURD even began. Minix wasn't an attempt at a production kernel in 1987. Minix 1 and Minix 2 were purely for teaching. Minix 3 was a completely new project, and wasn't started until 2005. >but perhaps it will be decently soon The history of the project and its current state suggest that is unlikely. >Development on HURD has really surged in the past year or two, I'd like to say. You might very well like to say that, but that doesn't mean it is true. There are no competent systems programmers working for/with GNU, it is highly unlikely that the random assortment of people chosen for their politics rather than their skillset will be able to turn the longest festering mess of code ever into a production ready kernel.
- stormbrew 13y agoThe operating system as a whole is GNU and that project started in 1983. Hurd is just the kernel. It took them 7 years to even name the kernel that hadn't been written yet. I feel like that says something. And then when an actual GNU-licensed kernel came along, they ignored it and kept plugging away on vapour.
- InclinedPlane 13y agoAre you joking? Linux is named after a guy, why? Because it started out as a single person project. So did many other major open source projects. The reason why so few people still work on HURD is because it's not seen as very promising or interesting or practical.
- rookieMP 13y agoOh right, and Linus Torvalds wrote all the millions of lines of code that comprise the Linux kernel. Sure it started out as a single person project, but it certainly didn't stay that way. One of the reasons development on Linux progresses so quickly is because of the vast number of developers. HURD, to contrast, had a small base initially and has remained that way.
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- InclinedPlane 13y agoAre the last 2 sentences of my post not visible on your monitor?
- rookieMP 13y agoNope. Sorry.
- Tobu 13y agoLinus is a good, pragmatic designer and a fantastic manager. Do give him some credit for fostering the kernel community.
- rookieMP 13y agoI did say "one of the reasons", not "the only reason".
- Florin_Andrei 13y ago> I will always wait for the day I can say my computer runs GNU. Nothing else, just GNU. Well, um... why?