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The basics of reality distortion

26 points by dirkk0 13y ago

fusiongyro 13y ago
I watched the whole keynote video and I have to say, those kids from CMU were absolutely the worst part of it. Steve-o would have castrated them behind the stage after that. I'd be surprised if Tim ever invites college students on stage with him again. I found the rest of the keynote was actually really impressive. Craig has great charisma. It's not the same as Job's charisma but it is good, much better than Tim who seems to lack it utterly. Also, Dave, the active, transitive form of "effect" you want is "affect." As in, "...will not in any way affect their ability..."
Tloewald 13y ago
I figure the CMU guys went backstage and vomited. It's important to remember: Steve wasn't that awesome a presenter, he was merely much better than the alternatives. The Wall Street and blogosphere reaction to Keynotes was frequently negative. (iPad jokes...) There was always a crap ton of annoying shit in WWDC keynotes including boring marketing pablum and sales stats, and the self-indulgent videos and awful Johnny Ive videos. Johnny Ive designed Aqua too. Remember pinstripes? Apple hasn't lost it. Or if it has, there's no evidence of it yet. Implying otherwise puts Winer on par with the rest of the "what earthshaking sector destroying products has Apple released lately" morons.
- integraton 13y ago
  > Johnny Ive designed Aqua too. Cordell Ratzlaff was the design lead for Aqua: http://www.cultofmac.com/87889/how-mac-os-x-came-to-be-exclusive-10th-anniversary-story/ http://www.cultofmac.com/87889/how-mac-os-x-came-to-be-exclu...
  - Tloewald 13y ago
    Seems like my memory is playing tricks on me. I thought I remembered Jobs crediting Ive with the look of Aqua during the announcement.
- fusiongyro 13y ago
  I actually thought the keynote was pretty compelling evidence that they definitely still have it. I don't remember another keynote where they announced so much new stuff at once. A lot of interesting stuff actually got completely lost in the shuffle--like iWork on iCloud.
  - robotresearcher 13y ago
    "they announced so much new stuff at once" There was only one thing you could buy, though: a slightly better MacBook air. "Available today" is the genius of Apple keynotes. They get the wave of interest combined with instant gratification drive. People are watching at home waving their credit cards.
    - fusiongyro 13y ago
      I think that's an odd thing to focus on. There were always a mixture of available now/available in three months kinds of deals.
    - Tloewald 13y ago
      It's WWDC, and from that point of view we got a new iOS, a new Mac OS X, and new Macbook Airs. That's not bad by WWDC standards.
badman_ting 13y ago
Rather than "real reality versus distorted", probably a better way to think about it is to realize that everyone distorts reality differently. True, you can't lie to a compiler, but as far as I recall Jobs never suggested such a thing. Plus, consider whether Jobs believed what was saying at any given point. Maybe the rant about browser features was said for effect for those within earshot, who knows. After Jobs came back, he talked about how the Apple community needed to let go of the idea that winning meant MS had to lose. Make your choices as to which one he meant (if any). The racing cars thing sure was strange, though. No disagreement there. Pretty much everyone remarked on it.
- ctdonath 13y ago
  You can't lie to a compiler, but you can present it with some demented truths to persuade it to do what you want.

26 points by dirkk0 13y ago

I watched the whole keynote video and I have to say, those kids from CMU were absolutely the worst part of it. Steve-o would have castrated them behind the stage after that. I'd be surprised if Tim ever invites college students on stage with him again. I found the rest of the keynote was actually really impressive. Craig has great charisma. It's not the same as Job's charisma but it is good, much better than Tim who seems to lack it utterly. Also, Dave, the active, transitive form of "effect" you want is "affect." As in, "...will not in any way affect their ability..."

Tloewald 13y ago

I figure the CMU guys went backstage and vomited. It's important to remember: Steve wasn't that awesome a presenter, he was merely much better than the alternatives. The Wall Street and blogosphere reaction to Keynotes was frequently negative. (iPad jokes...) There was always a crap ton of annoying shit in WWDC keynotes including boring marketing pablum and sales stats, and the self-indulgent videos and awful Johnny Ive videos. Johnny Ive designed Aqua too. Remember pinstripes? Apple hasn't lost it. Or if it has, there's no evidence of it yet. Implying otherwise puts Winer on par with the rest of the "what earthshaking sector destroying products has Apple released lately" morons.

integraton 13y ago
> Johnny Ive designed Aqua too. Cordell Ratzlaff was the design lead for Aqua: http://www.cultofmac.com/87889/how-mac-os-x-came-to-be-exclusive-10th-anniversary-story/ http://www.cultofmac.com/87889/how-mac-os-x-came-to-be-exclu...
- Tloewald 13y ago
  Seems like my memory is playing tricks on me. I thought I remembered Jobs crediting Ive with the look of Aqua during the announcement.
fusiongyro 13y ago
I actually thought the keynote was pretty compelling evidence that they definitely still have it. I don't remember another keynote where they announced so much new stuff at once. A lot of interesting stuff actually got completely lost in the shuffle--like iWork on iCloud.
- robotresearcher 13y ago
  "they announced so much new stuff at once" There was only one thing you could buy, though: a slightly better MacBook air. "Available today" is the genius of Apple keynotes. They get the wave of interest combined with instant gratification drive. People are watching at home waving their credit cards.
  - fusiongyro 13y ago
    I think that's an odd thing to focus on. There were always a mixture of available now/available in three months kinds of deals.
  - Tloewald 13y ago
    It's WWDC, and from that point of view we got a new iOS, a new Mac OS X, and new Macbook Airs. That's not bad by WWDC standards.

badman_ting 13y ago

Rather than "real reality versus distorted", probably a better way to think about it is to realize that everyone distorts reality differently. True, you can't lie to a compiler, but as far as I recall Jobs never suggested such a thing. Plus, consider whether Jobs believed what was saying at any given point. Maybe the rant about browser features was said for effect for those within earshot, who knows. After Jobs came back, he talked about how the Apple community needed to let go of the idea that winning meant MS had to lose. Make your choices as to which one he meant (if any). The racing cars thing sure was strange, though. No disagreement there. Pretty much everyone remarked on it.

ctdonath 13y ago
You can't lie to a compiler, but you can present it with some demented truths to persuade it to do what you want.