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> Only the chuginess comes standard with Android. Sounds to me like you're trolling. This is not the case unless one is using a low end device. > If you casua

by myko 13y ago

> Only the chuginess comes standard with Android. Sounds to me like you're trolling. This is not the case unless one is using a low end device. > If you casually dismiss everything else too, of course not. Pot, meet kettle. > Like Android apps allowed to run rampant in the bg, draining the batteries pronto -- a complaint you hear all the time, and of which you can also find some measurements. I honestly think you're just making things up at this point? Have you even used an Android device? Yes, LTE was a big drain when it first came out. Generally Android devices handle power management very nicely. At this point you just sound like a combative troll.

coldtea 13y ago
This troll word. Do you use it with anything you find too uncomfortable to hear? It's like discussing with a 10-year old. Either respond to what I write, ask me a question, ask for clarifications, or provide counter-arguments -- or don't and refrain from this subthread. The "you are a troll" accusation gets old quickly, as I approach forty. I could not fucking care less about going to a forum and making "joke comments". What I write is what I believe to be true, based on what I know. So. >Sounds to me like you're trolling. This is not the case unless one is using a low end device. No, it's very much the case, EVEN on high end devices. And there have been posts from Android engineers on the issue, blaming various stuff, from the stop the world GC to the drawing thread scheduling. Here's one: https://plus.google.com/100838276097451809262/posts/VDkV9XaJRGS https://plus.google.com/100838276097451809262/posts/VDkV9XaJ... It also links to another Google person, saying that "that's not it, it's because of the extra security Android offers, that has an overhead". Which is funny considering: http://appleinsider.com/articles/13/05/14/mobile-malware-exploding-but-only-for-android http://appleinsider.com/articles/13/05/14/mobile-malware-exp... >>Like Android apps allowed to run rampant in the bg, draining the batteries pronto -- a complaint you hear all the time, and of which you can also find some measurements. >I honestly think you're just making things up at this point? Have you even used an Android device? Yes, I have. A Samsung mid-range one. Also borrowed briefly a high end LG one. Not impressed on both counts. As for the battery thing, not only it's an issue, but a whole cottage industry has sprung around it -- with battery-saving apps being among the most popular (LOL): http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-19736_7-57581440-251/five-android-apps-that-prolong-your-smartphones-battery-life/ http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-19736_7-57581440-251/five-andro... http://lifehacker.com/5990553/betterbatterystats-tells-you-exactly-which-apps-are-draining-your-androids-battery http://lifehacker.com/5990553/betterbatterystats-tells-you-e... http://www.topapps.net/android/top-10-battery-saver-apps-for-android.html/ http://www.topapps.net/android/top-10-battery-saver-apps-for... http://www.techradar.com/news/phone-and-communications/mobile-phones/12-android-battery-life-tips-and-tricks-697772 http://www.techradar.com/news/phone-and-communications/mobil... I could similar list stuff forever...
- myko 13y ago
  > No, it's very much the case, EVEN on high end devices. And there have been posts from Android engineers on the issue, blaming various stuff, from the stop the world GC to the drawing thread scheduling. Here's one: You're still just being ignorant. This was a post by a former Software Engineer in Test Android intern who didn't know what he was talking about, hence why he was corrected multiple times all over the internet. In your own link he mentions that he was wrong but leaving the thread up for posterity! It's like you only post things you assume support your pre-determined world view without even reading them. Quote from Andrew on that post: > BEFORE READING: A LOT OF MY ANALYSIS OF ANDROID PERFORMANCE IS WRONG, HOWEVER I AM LEAVING THIS POST UP BECAUSE OF MY COMMENTARY ON THE ISSUE. So yes, I think at this point you're just trolling. I have addressed your points - performance is an issue on low end devices, not on high end devices. This is not unexpected. There are lots of battery packs for iPhones, that doesn't mean iPhones have relatively shit battery life, it just means there is a market for extending that battery.

by myko 13y ago

coldtea 13y ago

This troll word. Do you use it with anything you find too uncomfortable to hear? It's like discussing with a 10-year old. Either respond to what I write, ask me a question, ask for clarifications, or provide counter-arguments -- or don't and refrain from this subthread. The "you are a troll" accusation gets old quickly, as I approach forty. I could not fucking care less about going to a forum and making "joke comments". What I write is what I believe to be true, based on what I know. So. >Sounds to me like you're trolling. This is not the case unless one is using a low end device. No, it's very much the case, EVEN on high end devices. And there have been posts from Android engineers on the issue, blaming various stuff, from the stop the world GC to the drawing thread scheduling. Here's one: https://plus.google.com/100838276097451809262/posts/VDkV9XaJRGS https://plus.google.com/100838276097451809262/posts/VDkV9XaJ... It also links to another Google person, saying that "that's not it, it's because of the extra security Android offers, that has an overhead". Which is funny considering: http://appleinsider.com/articles/13/05/14/mobile-malware-exploding-but-only-for-android http://appleinsider.com/articles/13/05/14/mobile-malware-exp... >>Like Android apps allowed to run rampant in the bg, draining the batteries pronto -- a complaint you hear all the time, and of which you can also find some measurements. >I honestly think you're just making things up at this point? Have you even used an Android device? Yes, I have. A Samsung mid-range one. Also borrowed briefly a high end LG one. Not impressed on both counts. As for the battery thing, not only it's an issue, but a whole cottage industry has sprung around it -- with battery-saving apps being among the most popular (LOL): http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-19736_7-57581440-251/five-android-apps-that-prolong-your-smartphones-battery-life/ http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-19736_7-57581440-251/five-andro... http://lifehacker.com/5990553/betterbatterystats-tells-you-exactly-which-apps-are-draining-your-androids-battery http://lifehacker.com/5990553/betterbatterystats-tells-you-e... http://www.topapps.net/android/top-10-battery-saver-apps-for-android.html/ http://www.topapps.net/android/top-10-battery-saver-apps-for... http://www.techradar.com/news/phone-and-communications/mobile-phones/12-android-battery-life-tips-and-tricks-697772 http://www.techradar.com/news/phone-and-communications/mobil... I could similar list stuff forever...

myko 13y ago
> No, it's very much the case, EVEN on high end devices. And there have been posts from Android engineers on the issue, blaming various stuff, from the stop the world GC to the drawing thread scheduling. Here's one: You're still just being ignorant. This was a post by a former Software Engineer in Test Android intern who didn't know what he was talking about, hence why he was corrected multiple times all over the internet. In your own link he mentions that he was wrong but leaving the thread up for posterity! It's like you only post things you assume support your pre-determined world view without even reading them. Quote from Andrew on that post: > BEFORE READING: A LOT OF MY ANALYSIS OF ANDROID PERFORMANCE IS WRONG, HOWEVER I AM LEAVING THIS POST UP BECAUSE OF MY COMMENTARY ON THE ISSUE. So yes, I think at this point you're just trolling. I have addressed your points - performance is an issue on low end devices, not on high end devices. This is not unexpected. There are lots of battery packs for iPhones, that doesn't mean iPhones have relatively shit battery life, it just means there is a market for extending that battery.