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Ask NH: Ruby/Rails or Python, 2013

I am a Scala developer without JEE experience. I would like to add a script language to my skillset and increase my employability. I started to look at Ruby/Rails to use as a backend API for Angular app, but after yesterday's lagn popularity pool I started to doubt if Ruby is a good investment in 2013. Can you please advise on Python (Django, Flask etc.) and Ruby/RoR ? * Jobs prospects (particularly, in Europe) * Adoption and perspectives * Usefulness a for backend guy, wanting to grow in web dev and increase employability. P.S. I see the similar question was asked 3 years ago https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1830063 and interested in current situation.

codegeek 13y ago
I did a Poll about languages and web apps recently. This might give you some insights. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5881965 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5881965
hkarthik 13y ago
> I would like to add a script language to my skillset and increase my employability. Adding a scripting language to your skill set will increase your employability, but primarily with smaller companies and startups. You can probably land a startup job in Berlin if you know Ruby or Python, but it may not pay as well as a finance job in London where your Scala skills may fetch a higher return. Given this, I would qualify your desires for what kind of company or industry you want to work in, and then choose based on that.
workhere-io 13y ago
"Europe" is not a thing; Ruby/Python adoption varies a lot from country to country. Your main concern seems to be employability, so my advice is to check job listings for your country - that should give you an idea of adoption. In terms of what you can actually do with the language, the differences between Ruby and Python are minimal. They are similar in many ways. If you're looking for a job, chances are you'll be working with one of the popular frameworks (Django or Rails), so try both of them out and see which one you prefer.
ragatskynet 13y ago
This questions turns up about every months - Ruby vs. Python. Well, my advice is that you should use which you like better. Ruby on Rails had some critical security problems but that can happen any time for new Django releases as well (let's be honest). The community is great behind both language so you can find plenty of information on the Internet regarding them. I think there are also many jobs on both as well but well, this varies from country to country - in Hungary there are not so many Rails jobs - but there are not so many Django/Flask places as well. Note: Scala is my love-language, why should you switch? Did you try the Play framework?
- playing_colours 13y ago
  Yeah, I love Scala and have positive experience with Play framework. I am just worried a bit in job security, you know, Scala still is not popular. So I decided to double in something more popular but at the same time what I don't mind to work.
  - ragatskynet 13y ago
    I totally understand you but well, hope that it will get popular! :-)

codegeek 13y ago

I did a Poll about languages and web apps recently. This might give you some insights. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5881965 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5881965

hkarthik 13y ago

> I would like to add a script language to my skillset and increase my employability. Adding a scripting language to your skill set will increase your employability, but primarily with smaller companies and startups. You can probably land a startup job in Berlin if you know Ruby or Python, but it may not pay as well as a finance job in London where your Scala skills may fetch a higher return. Given this, I would qualify your desires for what kind of company or industry you want to work in, and then choose based on that.

workhere-io 13y ago

"Europe" is not a thing; Ruby/Python adoption varies a lot from country to country. Your main concern seems to be employability, so my advice is to check job listings for your country - that should give you an idea of adoption. In terms of what you can actually do with the language, the differences between Ruby and Python are minimal. They are similar in many ways. If you're looking for a job, chances are you'll be working with one of the popular frameworks (Django or Rails), so try both of them out and see which one you prefer.

ragatskynet 13y ago

This questions turns up about every months - Ruby vs. Python. Well, my advice is that you should use which you like better. Ruby on Rails had some critical security problems but that can happen any time for new Django releases as well (let's be honest). The community is great behind both language so you can find plenty of information on the Internet regarding them. I think there are also many jobs on both as well but well, this varies from country to country - in Hungary there are not so many Rails jobs - but there are not so many Django/Flask places as well. Note: Scala is my love-language, why should you switch? Did you try the Play framework?

playing_colours 13y ago
Yeah, I love Scala and have positive experience with Play framework. I am just worried a bit in job security, you know, Scala still is not popular. So I decided to double in something more popular but at the same time what I don't mind to work.
- ragatskynet 13y ago
  I totally understand you but well, hope that it will get popular! :-)