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Interesting how all of these folks are cool with someone taking photos of them and posting them to the internet, particularly since the site states that the par

Interesting how all of these folks are cool with someone taking photos of them and posting them to the internet, particularly since the site states that the party is illegal.

vxNsr 13y ago
And the organizers stated clearly that photography is expressly forbidden. EDIT: ha, I missed that part, my eyes must of just skipped over it, figuring it to be more about not taking pictures. I just like the idea of exploring the "old" abandoned places that are literally beneath our feet.
- ctdonath 13y ago
  The organizers stated clearly "There will be professional photographers whose images will be available afterward."
  - lostlogin 13y ago
    I must need coffee. Just spent an inordinate amount of time wondering why anyone would want an image of the photographer.
    - jakejake 13y ago
      That's an SNL skit waiting to happen. "Hey, why did our wedding photographer send us a bunch of pictures of himself?!"
jrockway 13y ago
It's very unlikely that the state wants to pursue a trespassing charge based on a poorly-lit photograph. "Do you have any physical evidence that this is my client?" "No." "I rest my case."
- RockyMcNuts 13y ago
  well, they might want to put a stop to it before there's a fire or stampede in a tight space with no exits. these folks seem pretty well organized but they're also locking people in. if there's an incident, guaranteed the city gets sued for big bucks if it it's on their property.
  - jrockway 13y ago
    I doubt the city would be sued for this.
    - jakejake 13y ago
      Why would you doubt that? Imagine some hot shot lawyer's 19 year old daughter falls and breaks her neck. They would go after the city for not cementing the place shut and probably win - or at least get a deal. The sickening part is that the city does the math and sometimes its just cheaper to pay the person to go away.
    - RockyMcNuts 13y ago
      young padawan, much to learn, you have, about the ways of the dark side. when you look at the dark side, careful you must be. For the dark side looks back. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/08/22/lawsuits-cost-new-york-ci_n_932962.html http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/08/22/lawsuits-cost-new-y...
      - jrockway 13y ago
        Those sound pretty reasonable to me -- if you get hit by a car, you should sue the driver, even if the driver is the NYPD. That's a far cry from going down into the second avenue subway and suing the city for slipping and falling. (Remember, being an invitee is different from being a trespassee. If you hurt yourself in a normal subway station, that's one thing. But if you open a manhole and crawl down into an abandoned station, that's another thing.)
        13y ago
anigbrowl 13y ago
It's not illegal to attend an unpermitted party, only to organize one. (Edit: that I know about...I'm too lazy to research NY law on unlawful assembly, and this isn't meant to be legal advice.) And an assertion on a blog doesn't rise to the standard of evidence. As someone with a lot of experience in this area, authorities are in general not so much concerned with administrative propriety as with safety and respect for others (ie noise complaints).
delinka 13y ago
This is one of those things that requires the letter of the law behind any enforcement. You can admit to any crime you'd like, but absent evidence that there was indeed a crime, law enforcement can't exactly put you away for years. Unless law enforcement found these people breaking the law, or "knew" that they did and found evidence of such, there's no recourse. Photos of people at an "illegal" gathering? Maybe the organizers indeed had a permit for whatever space they were in; maybe it was all staged inside a warehouse that they owned; maybe the whole story was concocted by the author. Ultimately, unless they get caught or leave obvious evidence of exactly what took place in which location involving which people ... there's nothing to prosecute. Edit: All that said, I'd hate to see the consequences of someone being seriously injured during one of these events. I'm hoping the "Agents" can get the person safely to the surface and that the injured party will remain mum on the details.

Interesting how all of these folks are cool with someone taking photos of them and posting them to the internet, particularly since the site states that the party is illegal.

vxNsr 13y ago

And the organizers stated clearly that photography is expressly forbidden. EDIT: ha, I missed that part, my eyes must of just skipped over it, figuring it to be more about not taking pictures. I just like the idea of exploring the "old" abandoned places that are literally beneath our feet.

ctdonath 13y ago
The organizers stated clearly "There will be professional photographers whose images will be available afterward."
- lostlogin 13y ago
  I must need coffee. Just spent an inordinate amount of time wondering why anyone would want an image of the photographer.
  - jakejake 13y ago
    That's an SNL skit waiting to happen. "Hey, why did our wedding photographer send us a bunch of pictures of himself?!"

jrockway 13y ago

It's very unlikely that the state wants to pursue a trespassing charge based on a poorly-lit photograph. "Do you have any physical evidence that this is my client?" "No." "I rest my case."

RockyMcNuts 13y ago
well, they might want to put a stop to it before there's a fire or stampede in a tight space with no exits. these folks seem pretty well organized but they're also locking people in. if there's an incident, guaranteed the city gets sued for big bucks if it it's on their property.
- jrockway 13y ago
  I doubt the city would be sued for this.
  - jakejake 13y ago
    Why would you doubt that? Imagine some hot shot lawyer's 19 year old daughter falls and breaks her neck. They would go after the city for not cementing the place shut and probably win - or at least get a deal. The sickening part is that the city does the math and sometimes its just cheaper to pay the person to go away.
  - RockyMcNuts 13y ago
    young padawan, much to learn, you have, about the ways of the dark side. when you look at the dark side, careful you must be. For the dark side looks back. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/08/22/lawsuits-cost-new-york-ci_n_932962.html http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/08/22/lawsuits-cost-new-y...
    - jrockway 13y ago
      Those sound pretty reasonable to me -- if you get hit by a car, you should sue the driver, even if the driver is the NYPD. That's a far cry from going down into the second avenue subway and suing the city for slipping and falling. (Remember, being an invitee is different from being a trespassee. If you hurt yourself in a normal subway station, that's one thing. But if you open a manhole and crawl down into an abandoned station, that's another thing.)
      - 13y ago

anigbrowl 13y ago

It's not illegal to attend an unpermitted party, only to organize one. (Edit: that I know about...I'm too lazy to research NY law on unlawful assembly, and this isn't meant to be legal advice.) And an assertion on a blog doesn't rise to the standard of evidence. As someone with a lot of experience in this area, authorities are in general not so much concerned with administrative propriety as with safety and respect for others (ie noise complaints).

delinka 13y ago

This is one of those things that requires the letter of the law behind any enforcement. You can admit to any crime you'd like, but absent evidence that there was indeed a crime, law enforcement can't exactly put you away for years. Unless law enforcement found these people breaking the law, or "knew" that they did and found evidence of such, there's no recourse. Photos of people at an "illegal" gathering? Maybe the organizers indeed had a permit for whatever space they were in; maybe it was all staged inside a warehouse that they owned; maybe the whole story was concocted by the author. Ultimately, unless they get caught or leave obvious evidence of exactly what took place in which location involving which people ... there's nothing to prosecute. Edit: All that said, I'd hate to see the consequences of someone being seriously injured during one of these events. I'm hoping the "Agents" can get the person safely to the surface and that the injured party will remain mum on the details.