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Yeah, I am an iPhone owner and prefer it to Android, but this article is just asinine. First of all, you can absolutely do anything iOS does on the web; it's j

by ebbv 13y ago

Yeah, I am an iPhone owner and prefer it to Android, but this article is just asinine. First of all, you can absolutely do anything iOS does on the web; it's just a question of how much effort you're willing to put in. There's not a library already in existence that you can use easily which perfectly mimics iOS 7, but if there were then iOS 7 would need more work. But there will be web libraries that allow you to mimic iOS 7. The whole concept of "X platform can't do this" is so wrong headed to begin with. When it comes to software, the first thing anyone should learn is that anything can do just about anything. The limitation is hardware.

jcampbell1 13y ago
Explain how you are going to animate blurred glass at 60 FPS if Safari doesn't give you a fast path to the GPU? I don't understand your comment. Are you just saying that both Javascript and Objective-C are Turing complete? If that is the point your are making, well that isn't really debatable.
- altcognito 13y ago
  http://www.theverge.com/2013/6/11/4418188/apple-ios-7-design-influences http://www.theverge.com/2013/6/11/4418188/apple-ios-7-design... I'm baffled why all the Apple people are excited about features I disable in Windows because they are obnoxious and ugly.
- ebbv 13y ago
  You really think you need direct GPU access for a simple blur effect? There's already plenty of ways to accomplish blur effects with CSS and JS. Do a little research.
bdcravens 13y ago
Yes, you can build Call of Duty with canvas and JavaScript. No, you shouldn't. A claim that faster hardware is a solution is circular: to get native performance today, faster hardware is needed. At that point, native performance on that hardware becomes great and theoretically is doing more amazing things than it did on the old hardware. In other words HTML-based apps always play catch up, unless native can't use the hardware anymore, or the interpreted bottleneck is reduced.
- ebbv 13y ago
  Of course mobile apps are always running slower than native, but that wasn't the issue here. The claim was that web apps CANNOT do what iOS 7 does and that's just horseshit.

by ebbv 13y ago

jcampbell1 13y ago

Explain how you are going to animate blurred glass at 60 FPS if Safari doesn't give you a fast path to the GPU? I don't understand your comment. Are you just saying that both Javascript and Objective-C are Turing complete? If that is the point your are making, well that isn't really debatable.

altcognito 13y ago
http://www.theverge.com/2013/6/11/4418188/apple-ios-7-design-influences http://www.theverge.com/2013/6/11/4418188/apple-ios-7-design... I'm baffled why all the Apple people are excited about features I disable in Windows because they are obnoxious and ugly.
ebbv 13y ago
You really think you need direct GPU access for a simple blur effect? There's already plenty of ways to accomplish blur effects with CSS and JS. Do a little research.

bdcravens 13y ago

Yes, you can build Call of Duty with canvas and JavaScript. No, you shouldn't. A claim that faster hardware is a solution is circular: to get native performance today, faster hardware is needed. At that point, native performance on that hardware becomes great and theoretically is doing more amazing things than it did on the old hardware. In other words HTML-based apps always play catch up, unless native can't use the hardware anymore, or the interpreted bottleneck is reduced.

ebbv 13y ago
Of course mobile apps are always running slower than native, but that wasn't the issue here. The claim was that web apps CANNOT do what iOS 7 does and that's just horseshit.