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I could write an article: Schrodinger's Thief: A guide for black people. I could highlight the disproportionate instance of black crime, I could talk about how

I could write an article: Schrodinger's Thief: A guide for black people. I could highlight the disproportionate instance of black crime, I could talk about how they should dress better so I don't confuse them with the "other" black people. I could talk about how they should change their speech and other ways they can accomodate my racism. But that would be absolutely disgusting.

Samuel_Michon 13y ago
True, and in this case of Schrödinger’s Rapist it doesn’t work out: there’s little proof that women are raped more often than men.
- Splendor 13y ago
  Source?
  - Samuel_Michon 13y ago
    Because few men report such an occurrence, and because in many jurisdictions ‘rape’ is only recognized when it’s a man having sex with a woman against her will and not the other way around, it’s hard to get reliable numbers. “Much like female erectile response, male erectile response is involuntary, meaning that a man need not be aroused for his penis to become erect and be placed in a woman's vagina; mechanical stimulation is all that is necessary. However, male victims of sexual abuse by females often face social, political, and legal double standards. Gender-neutral laws have combated the perception that rape rarely occurs to men, and other laws have eliminated the term rape altogether.” http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_by_gender http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_by_gender
- MetaCosm 13y ago
  NOTE: The article in question is from 2009. The 1 in 6 (and 1 in 33 among men) chance of being raped from the article is absolute nonsense that comes from a terrible 1992 "survey" by the Colorado Coalition Against Sexual Assault. That said, excluding prisons, women are vastly more likely to be raped or sexually assaulted than men.
sophacles 13y ago
The not-so-subtle difference is this: For a lot of crimes on which we have data, such as drug use/possession, the numbers of black people who commit the crimes are proportionally the same as the numbers of non-black people who also commit the crime. That means, for instance, that the percentage of white people who admit to using and possessing marijuana is the same as the percentage of black people who admit to it, and hispanic, and so on. But, if you look only at the number of arrests and convictions, the percentage of black people arrested and convicted is much higher. This difference suggests there is something besides "being black increases the chances of being criminal". On the other hand, the reasoning in this article is "across the board, being a woman comes with a 1:6 chance of being raped by a man, therefore women will have defenses, here's how to respect them". Here's another way to look at it: something far less than 1:10 email attachments in my inbox are malware. Yet I take precautions against ALL attachments as a result. My buddy that works in computer security probably isn't sending me a virus, but I still consider the attachment from him to be that until I know better. I'm sure you do too, it's just sane and rational security. Hell my work has banned almost all attachments, and most email services just automatically screen all attachments for evil intent. Even the ones that have a picture from my mom's phone are default considered to be evil and come from an horrible monster. Are you up in arms over this? Do you get pissed about articles about how to safely send email attachments, or transfer files in alternate safe ways? So why is it that when the odds look to be similar for a woman, but where the consequence is "get raped", it is sexist and batshit crazy for them to be concerned? Why not just have a de-facto "be very cautious" approach?

Samuel_Michon 13y ago

True, and in this case of Schrödinger’s Rapist it doesn’t work out: there’s little proof that women are raped more often than men.

Splendor 13y ago
Source?
- Samuel_Michon 13y ago
  Because few men report such an occurrence, and because in many jurisdictions ‘rape’ is only recognized when it’s a man having sex with a woman against her will and not the other way around, it’s hard to get reliable numbers. “Much like female erectile response, male erectile response is involuntary, meaning that a man need not be aroused for his penis to become erect and be placed in a woman's vagina; mechanical stimulation is all that is necessary. However, male victims of sexual abuse by females often face social, political, and legal double standards. Gender-neutral laws have combated the perception that rape rarely occurs to men, and other laws have eliminated the term rape altogether.” http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_by_gender http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_by_gender
MetaCosm 13y ago
NOTE: The article in question is from 2009. The 1 in 6 (and 1 in 33 among men) chance of being raped from the article is absolute nonsense that comes from a terrible 1992 "survey" by the Colorado Coalition Against Sexual Assault. That said, excluding prisons, women are vastly more likely to be raped or sexually assaulted than men.

sophacles 13y ago

The not-so-subtle difference is this: For a lot of crimes on which we have data, such as drug use/possession, the numbers of black people who commit the crimes are proportionally the same as the numbers of non-black people who also commit the crime. That means, for instance, that the percentage of white people who admit to using and possessing marijuana is the same as the percentage of black people who admit to it, and hispanic, and so on. But, if you look only at the number of arrests and convictions, the percentage of black people arrested and convicted is much higher. This difference suggests there is something besides "being black increases the chances of being criminal". On the other hand, the reasoning in this article is "across the board, being a woman comes with a 1:6 chance of being raped by a man, therefore women will have defenses, here's how to respect them". Here's another way to look at it: something far less than 1:10 email attachments in my inbox are malware. Yet I take precautions against ALL attachments as a result. My buddy that works in computer security probably isn't sending me a virus, but I still consider the attachment from him to be that until I know better. I'm sure you do too, it's just sane and rational security. Hell my work has banned almost all attachments, and most email services just automatically screen all attachments for evil intent. Even the ones that have a picture from my mom's phone are default considered to be evil and come from an horrible monster. Are you up in arms over this? Do you get pissed about articles about how to safely send email attachments, or transfer files in alternate safe ways? So why is it that when the odds look to be similar for a woman, but where the consequence is "get raped", it is sexist and batshit crazy for them to be concerned? Why not just have a de-facto "be very cautious" approach?