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That's a bit harsh, the guy was very receptive to technical arguments. Particularly regarding IPv6 and the NBN. He just became Internet Enemy #1 because of filt

That's a bit harsh, the guy was very receptive to technical arguments. Particularly regarding IPv6 and the NBN. He just became Internet Enemy #1 because of filter proposals.

Nursie 13y ago
Not just filter proposals, but an unremitting dedication to censorship, including support of some very dodgy blacklists. I'm sure he did some fine work regarding not getting in the way of the NBN, but the censorship is what he'll be remembered for.
- tomflack 13y ago
  Having spoken with the man in person, I think your original post was entirely unfair and based purely on media representation. You'd be surprised how much worse candidates for the position are out there. I'm no fan of censorship or filters, but can respect the man's work and the effort he put in to understand things.
  - Nursie 13y ago
    >> Having spoken with the man in person, I think your original post was entirely unfair and based purely on media representation. No it's mostly based on direct quotes. >> You'd be surprised how much worse candidates for the position are out there. I'm sure there are far worse candidates out there! Let's hope none of them get a sniff of power either. >> I'm no fan of censorship or filters, but can respect the man's work and the effort he put in to understand things. Good for you, I find repressive, censorious measures pretty offensive so I'm sorry if I don't share your viewpoint.
    - tomflack 13y ago
      Mate, the last thought I'll leave with you regarding the censorship fiasco: it was party politics. There are elements within both major parties that salivate at the thought of censorship, some of which hold the reigns on some policy directions. I still feel it's unfair to vilify the man personally like the Australian internet has done so for the past several years. When censorship and filtering proposals return with someone else at the helm, is it still Conroy's fault?
      - Nursie 13y ago
        Only when he proposes it and fights for it. Anyone that does that will attract the same attitude from me. Not to worry, I'm not even an Australian voter, I'm just a brit that bailed a year or so before citizenship was an option, though I do love the country and am under no illusions anywhere else is politically superior.
        tomflack 13y ago
        Your rage is directed at the wrong person. The guy up front isn't the guy who originally proposed it. That's not how political parties work.
        Nursie 13y ago
        He certainly championed the cause of censorship during his time in office, which is not something I could overlook in a politician, in fact I find it abhorrent. Again, sorry, but I don't share your viewpoint, the censorship stuff is not something I would overlook because of other, more positive work.
        tomflack 13y ago
        You're not understanding, so I'll just stop. You don't need to apologise for not sharing my view, but you do need to realise things aren't as black-and-white as you like to see them.
        Nursie 13y ago
        I'm sorry, I'm not understanding what? I understand that a guy in high public office may have done a few good things while there, as well as being on the side of some stuff that many people consider inherently evil and anti-democratic. I don't care who proposed it. I don't care if it was initially someone else's idea. I don't care if it's party policy and he just got the job of putting his face and political power behind it. He still did and said all those things and to my mind should have no place in politics as a result.

That's a bit harsh, the guy was very receptive to technical arguments. Particularly regarding IPv6 and the NBN. He just became Internet Enemy #1 because of filter proposals.

Nursie 13y ago

Not just filter proposals, but an unremitting dedication to censorship, including support of some very dodgy blacklists. I'm sure he did some fine work regarding not getting in the way of the NBN, but the censorship is what he'll be remembered for.

tomflack 13y ago
Having spoken with the man in person, I think your original post was entirely unfair and based purely on media representation. You'd be surprised how much worse candidates for the position are out there. I'm no fan of censorship or filters, but can respect the man's work and the effort he put in to understand things.
- Nursie 13y ago
  >> Having spoken with the man in person, I think your original post was entirely unfair and based purely on media representation. No it's mostly based on direct quotes. >> You'd be surprised how much worse candidates for the position are out there. I'm sure there are far worse candidates out there! Let's hope none of them get a sniff of power either. >> I'm no fan of censorship or filters, but can respect the man's work and the effort he put in to understand things. Good for you, I find repressive, censorious measures pretty offensive so I'm sorry if I don't share your viewpoint.
  - tomflack 13y ago
    Mate, the last thought I'll leave with you regarding the censorship fiasco: it was party politics. There are elements within both major parties that salivate at the thought of censorship, some of which hold the reigns on some policy directions. I still feel it's unfair to vilify the man personally like the Australian internet has done so for the past several years. When censorship and filtering proposals return with someone else at the helm, is it still Conroy's fault?
    - Nursie 13y ago
      Only when he proposes it and fights for it. Anyone that does that will attract the same attitude from me. Not to worry, I'm not even an Australian voter, I'm just a brit that bailed a year or so before citizenship was an option, though I do love the country and am under no illusions anywhere else is politically superior.
      - tomflack 13y ago
        Your rage is directed at the wrong person. The guy up front isn't the guy who originally proposed it. That's not how political parties work.
        Nursie 13y ago
        He certainly championed the cause of censorship during his time in office, which is not something I could overlook in a politician, in fact I find it abhorrent. Again, sorry, but I don't share your viewpoint, the censorship stuff is not something I would overlook because of other, more positive work.
        tomflack 13y ago
        You're not understanding, so I'll just stop. You don't need to apologise for not sharing my view, but you do need to realise things aren't as black-and-white as you like to see them.
        Nursie 13y ago
        I'm sorry, I'm not understanding what? I understand that a guy in high public office may have done a few good things while there, as well as being on the side of some stuff that many people consider inherently evil and anti-democratic. I don't care who proposed it. I don't care if it was initially someone else's idea. I don't care if it's party policy and he just got the job of putting his face and political power behind it. He still did and said all those things and to my mind should have no place in politics as a result.