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Firefox 22 released

247 points by Techasura 13y ago

decklin 13y ago
Release notes might be a more useful link: https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/22.0/releasenotes/ https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/22.0/releasenotes/
- MrBra 13y ago
  tnx mate :)
- Sven7 13y ago
  Wondering about the Web Speech API and speech input...Chrome does a great job, but doesn't seem to allow hooking up to 3rd party recognizers like Nuance or even something local. Anyone know how Mozilla is going to handle this? Are they going to use Google's recognizers in the cloud?
SideburnsOfDoom 13y ago
Release notes are here: http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/22.0/releasenotes/ http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/22.0/releasenotes/
callahad 13y ago
Not sure linking to the FTP mirror is all that useful. Here are the release notes: https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/22.0/releasenotes/ https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/22.0/releasenotes/ Highlights: WebRTC, asm.js, flexbox, and web notifications are present and enabled by default.
- masklinn 13y ago
  Also, clipboard data access. With Opera's switch to chromium, Firefox was the last browser without programmatic access to the clipboard[0] (though as usual MSIE has a non-standard implementation) so you had to listen for the paste event and post-process whatever garbage had been dumped in your paste area (and of course couldn't access high-level media types) [0] Opera, as far as I remember, has neither clipboard access nor a "paste" event, the POS.
  - giorgosts 13y ago
    So can a website read a users clipboard, and if yes, how can we disable this "feature"?
    - mh- 13y ago
      No, not unless you initiate a paste operation manually (literally, as in by hitting ctrl-v or etc.) This is one of the ways that pasting images from your clipboard into, say, an image hosting site can work. I had a difficult time finding fuller explanations of the capabilities - mostly because there isn't a standard API across browsers yet - but here[1] are the relevant Safari docs. There's also a working draft[2] from the W3C for a standardized API. [1] http://developer.apple.com/library/mac/documentation/AppleApplications/Conceptual/SafariJSProgTopics/Tasks/CopyAndPaste.html http://developer.apple.com/library/mac/documentation/AppleAp... [2] http://www.w3.org/TR/clipboard-apis/ http://www.w3.org/TR/clipboard-apis/
      - giorgosts 13y ago
        Thanks, it's just brought back memories of IE6 where a website could arbitrarily read user clipboard without notice
        oneeyedpigeon 13y ago
        What?! Are all those companies still using IE6 (and, consequently, holding back progress for the rest of us) aware of this massive security hole?
        vidarh 13y ago
        Hey, it's a feature. We can "fund" the time spent on IE6 workarounds by selling data obtained from paste buffers.
        jonknee 13y ago
        Companies using IE 6 have many more security problems than clipboard access.
- joelthelion 13y ago
  Are there any good web applications based on WebRTC yet?
  - shacharz 13y ago
    Tell me what you think of this one: http://www.sharefest.me/ http://www.sharefest.me/
  - mwarkentin 13y ago
    Group video chat: https://talky.io/ https://talky.io/
    - shacharz 13y ago
      I absolutely love your UI, and the game idea while waiting.
  - changdizzle 13y ago
    or build your own! www.tokbox.com disclaimer: BD @ tokbox
  - willaaye 13y ago
    Check out LiveNinja http://www.liveninja.com http://www.liveninja.com which is based on WebRTC for the video calls
- numbnuts 13y ago
  Don't forget ES6 fat arrows! That and right-dockable dev tools excites me more than they probably should. https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Mozilla/Firefox/Releases/22 https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Mozilla/Firefox/Rel...
  - blueveek 13y ago
    The devtools are indeed dockable on the right now in FF 22, but not responsive yet (so when little horizontal real estate is available, the tools will look and feel very cramped). The upcoming versions address this issue (in the end, it's all just CSS; for example: [0]). [0] http://dxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/browser/themes/linux/devtools/netmonitor.css#l474 http://dxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/browser/themes...
- _greim_ 13y ago
  Oh weird. I remember trying out FlexBox three years ago and having it work in FF. Does this just mean they dropped the -moz- prefix requirement?
  - masklinn 13y ago
    It's a bit more complex: there are actually 2 flexbox specs with different syntaxes, one from 2009 (now deprecated) and one from 2011[0]. Firefox has supported the old syntax circa Firefox 2 (Safari from 3.1, Chrome from the first version). This is about the new syntax and current CR. [0] http://css-tricks.com/old-flexbox-and-new-flexbox/ http://css-tricks.com/old-flexbox-and-new-flexbox/
    - bzbarsky 13y ago
      Firefox never supported the old flexbox. It has XUL boxes (dating back to 1998 or so), which the old flexbox was syntactically, and somewhat behaviorally based on. But they predate those drafts by 10 years.
      - masklinn 13y ago
        > Firefox never supported the old flexbox. I'm not sure why you're asserting that when you're completely wrong. Not only did Firefox support the old flexbox, it still does as of Firefox 22: [0] still works and uses the old (and prefixed) flexbox syntax, and said old (and prefixed) syntax remains documented on MDN with a note that it's deprecated[1] [0] http://www.the-haystack.com/2010/01/23/css3-flexbox-part-1/ http://www.the-haystack.com/2010/01/23/css3-flexbox-part-1/ [1] https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/CSS/-moz-box-flex https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/CSS/-moz-box-fl...
        bzbarsky 13y ago
        My point is that the syntax in question is used for XUL boxes, and has been for going on 15 years. It's not used for any sort of implementation of the old flexbox draft. The old flexbox draft is similar to XUL boxes in some ways, and quite different in other ways. Trying to use XUL boxes and expecting the old-flexbox behavior as a result will land you in trouble, as happens with depressing regularity when people use "display: -moz-box". The MDN documentation is sadly wrong, because it ignores the fact that the properties _look_ similar but have totally different behavior. Thank you for pointing that out; I'll make sure it gets fixed.
ck2 13y ago
Some users are going to need to modify layout.css.devPixelsPerPx if you have overly large layout. My window size became massively zoomed.
kstop 13y ago
Looking forward to 25% of my automated functional tests failing for the next week!
- robin_reala 13y ago
  Why? Surely your code isn’t that fragile?
  - kstop 13y ago
    er, no... /shifty_eyes I'm being melodramatic is all. The Selenium FF driver lags a little behind Firefox releases (totally understandable). Not a problem on my actual test boxes as I control the FF version on those, but it will lead to a week or so of devs (with FF auto-update set) complaining that tests are breaking locally. (Despite the fact that this situation and its remedy has been explained to them repeatedly.) It is possible that S2.33 will work fine with FF22, making all this moot. And it's just a passing annoyance. I have nothing but love for both applications.
    - robin_reala 13y ago
      Ah, Selenium, that makes more sense. Thanks for the update.
epmatsw 13y ago
I've felt like Firefox has been pretty light on features in its releases since it switched to rapid release, but this one is packed with stuff. Awesome! It's becoming more and more rare for me to have to switch to Chrome to get a website to work correctly/acceptably, and I love it! Great job by the Mozilla team
- bjustin 13y ago
  Which websites work better in Chrome? I use Safari these days, but when I used Firefox full time last year I didn't see any broken-ness.
  - davidjohnstone 13y ago
    The only broken-ness I can remember seeing for a long time in Firefox is in those demos and other little projects that pop up here where the developer forgot that browsers other than Chrome exist (or, are using Chrome only features).
  - epmatsw 13y ago
    I've had some issues with internal sites I use at work that are auto-generated Microsoft stuff. And for a while I couldn't get the new Google Maps to load every time on Firefox. It seems to be have been fixed at some point since it runs fine in Nightly now though.
  - hosay123 13y ago
    I am for all intents and purposes a massive Mozilla fanboy, however I regularly switch to Chromium to use any nontrivial 2D graphics js (e.g. the Python plop profiler). Not sure why, but Firefox definitely seems to have a weak spot around 2d (SVG?) performance
    - bloodorange 13y ago
      I submitted three (minor) patches for improving the performance of a couple of filters in Mozilla's SVG code. Those (minor) optimisations should be in this release. I hope to do a lot more. I too, like you, am a Mozilla fanboy. Unfortunately, in the last few months, I have a lot of pressure at my day-job (a few sudden departures). Nevertheless, I did contribute when I could spare the time and I urge you to do likewise. If there are enough of us, then there's always someone helping them out. It's a massive project and needs all the hands that kind developers are willing to spare.
zanny 13y ago
It randomly segfaults on Arch with no error report and a trace says it comes from libgobject. So I went up the stack, every one except nightly is segfaulting. Guess I'm on nightly for a while!
- PedroBatista 13y ago
  Well, you are on Arch, so that is the default version you should use. :-D
  - yogo 13y ago
    Arch has never been that bleeding edge.
    - zanny 13y ago
      It's actually a pain in the butt to run anything but release firefox on Arch, because you either need to use a 3rd party repo or some AUR wrapper to auto-update the aur package. That, and Nightly is kind of painful because its a 60MB update daily. I'm probably going to be skipping a lot of updates on it =P
      - shardling 13y ago
        >That, and Nightly is kind of painful because its a 60MB update daily. I'm probably going to be skipping a lot of updates on it =P Is that a Linux/Arch specific problem? On OSX it'll download partial updates at just a few MB -- at least so long as you really do keep it updated nightly.
        sp332 13y ago
        Well if you use the system package manager, and it doesn't support and use differential updates, then you have to download the whole package from your distribution's repository.
      - isaacaggrey 13y ago
mrspeaker 13y ago
Oh yeah - short function syntax goes into the wild! let square = x => x * x Time to move over to stalking the Chrome devs...
- siddboots 13y ago
  Yay. Sometimes I wish we still did release parties.
- creatio 13y ago
  Can this syntax be also used with the other browsers? i.e. IE and Chrome?
  - siddboots 13y ago
    Not yet, but it is in the ECMAScript 6 draft, so it will most likely be adopted eventually.
  - ajryan 13y ago
    TypeScript supports this syntax. I believe they are trying to align with ECMAScript 6 as much as possible.
    - bad_user 13y ago
      The nice thing about TypeScript is that it compiles to EcmaScript 3, so you can target older browsers and still use these goodies. Also, TypeScript 0.9 is released, which includes niceties such as generics and type info overloading based on constant values passed in function parameters. It's pretty slick, if only it could output code optimized for Google Closure's advanced mode, for tree-shaking awesomeness.
- blueveek 13y ago
  Not to mention that |this| is lexically bound in the case of fat arrow functions. No more ".bind(this)" or "let self = this;" everywhere! https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/JavaScript/Reference/arrow_functions#Lexical_this https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/JavaScript/Refe...
mmuro 13y ago
I love Firefox. But, it's about damn time to remove the scroll bars on Mac OS X. This was a Lion feature and we're almost two versions removed from that.
- AaronMT 13y ago
  Not a whole lot of Mac OSX dev's contributing to the project these days. Doing what we can.
  - Yoric 13y ago
    Actually, it's more "not a whole lot of MacOSX devs contributing to the UX these days." Plenty of MacOS X devs contributing everywhere else.
- msujaws 13y ago
  The scrollbars are fixed in version 23. Download Firefox Beta, Aurora, or Nightly and you will get them :)
  - mmuro 13y ago
    That's fantastic! I guess it's coming in July or August?
    - sp332 13y ago
      Yup, Firefox is on a 6-week release cycle so it should be in the first week of August. (Right now 22 is "release", 23 is "beta", 24 is "aurora" and 25 is "nightly".)
    - bzbarsky 13y ago
      23 is early August. https://wiki.mozilla.org/RapidRelease/Calendar https://wiki.mozilla.org/RapidRelease/Calendar has all the dates.
- abrowne 13y ago
  They're in Nightly[1]. I've been running UX nightly[2] for the new tab design for a few months with little to no issues with stability. [1]: http://nightly.mozilla.org/ http://nightly.mozilla.org/ [2]: http://people.mozilla.org/~jwein/ux-nightly/ http://people.mozilla.org/~jwein/ux-nightly/
noelwelsh 13y ago
If you're a fan of Firefox I recommend using Aurora: http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/aurora/ Aurora is basically the beta of Firefox. It seems to get incremental updates more regularly than Firefox. It very occasionally has issues with compatibility with plugins (usually when a version number is bumped) but I can't recall any stability issues in the few years I've been using it.
- shacharz 13y ago
  There is Firefox beta channel, aurora is a bit less stable. Usually aurora still gets uncooked features pushed in, while beta only receives preffed features, unpreffed stable features or bug fixes
  - sandyarmstrong 13y ago
    Yeah, in my experience Aurora is occasional work-interrupting pain, whereas beta is blissful: http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/beta/ http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/beta/ It doesn't update super frequently during the 6-week release cycle. Maybe once a week tops, I think? Hard to be sure, as I restart FF every few days anyway.
    - cpeterso 13y ago
      Mozilla updates Firefox Beta once a week, but there is debate about twice weekly (Monday/Thursday) updates.
    - mlinksva 13y ago
      Before Aurora there's also http://nightly.mozilla.org/ http://nightly.mozilla.org/ one update/day. I've run it since shortly after they moved to a six week cycle (I ran Aurora initially) and have never had work loss. Only once in that period have I had to downgrade to Aurora for a day (the nightly build seemed broken, crashed on startup). Overall I'm very happy with getting features and speedups ~18 weeks before general release. BTW, they must have more or less completely solved the add-ons version compatibility problem that was initially a big pain when they moved to the six week cycle; I haven't noticed any disabled or broken add-ons in a very long time.
ianstormtaylor 13y ago
Flexbox. It's finally almost here. I cannot tell you how long I've waited for this to be supported by default in all of these browsers... as soon as Safari 7 is released, us developer sites will actually be able to make the switch. I honestly think wrangling the hacky current layout solutions is 25% or more of my time spent with CSS on a project, so hopefully we'll be able to build things much more quickly. Happy day.
pjmlp 13y ago
Still no resizable bookmarks window.
- brokenparser 13y ago
  Except for the bookmarks window. Can you elaborate?
  - pjmlp 13y ago
    Since the days Firefox 3 it is no longer possible to resize the bookmarks window you get when you press Ctrl+D or click star. The solution was to hack userchrome.css or install OpenBook add on. However it is no longer being kept up to date with Firefox. A possible update for it is to use Edit Bookmark Plus instead. Some information here, https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=418864 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=418864
    - shardling 13y ago
      Calling that the "bookmarks window" will just confuse people. It's not a window.
      - pjmlp 13y ago
        A GUI widget then.
- kbrosnan 13y ago
  https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/edit-bookmark-plus/ https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/edit-bookmark... covers that use case.
- Narretz 13y ago
  I think the bookmark overlay has not received updates in a long time. If you use it often with many tabs, it's actually quite a pain to use it.
MattDL 13y ago
Looking nice, hope they continue to improve performance and stability too. Having a huge amount of issues with the flash plugin at the moment, not sure if that's their fault or Adobe's though.
- brokenparser 13y ago
  Firefox can't do anything to prevent a plugin from crashing. That and I'd wager most of the Flash movies are very poorly coded, resulting in exceptions that could've been prevented. You can tell by browsing the web with a debug build of Flash.
niutech 13y ago
The OdinMonkey engine performance is impressive. The Lua VM benchmark[1] jumped from 110 points in Firefox 21 to 318 points in Firefox 22! Not to mention poor performance of Chrome. Next, have a look at the Epic Citadel[2], which runs very smoothly in Firefox 22. Well done! [1] http://kripken.github.io/lua.vm.js/lua.vm.js.html http://kripken.github.io/lua.vm.js/lua.vm.js.html [2] http://www.unrealengine.com/html5/ http://www.unrealengine.com/html5/
- masklinn 13y ago
  The Lua VM benchmark seems to be compiled to asm.js though, how does chrome fare when not targeting asmjs?
  - pornel 13y ago
    • Chrome 29.0.1546.0 canary: 91 points • Firefox nightly 25.0a1 (2013-06-26): 403 points MBP i7 2.2Ghz
  - azakai 13y ago
    It would probably be slower with emscripten in non-asm.js mode (asm.js format is more careful to not change types at runtime, etc.), based on benchmarks I've tested in the past. Have not tested on this particular one, though, if you check it out please let us know.
- fhd2 13y ago
  It's a bit unfair to mention Chrome performing poorly on these. Both are asm.js, which OdinMonkey is optimised for, V8 not. That said, I'm very excited about asm.js (using it, in fact) and the performance in FF 22 blows me away as well. The V8 team appears to be working on asm.js optimisations, so soon we can have a fair contest :) The best thing about asm.js is that the optimisations are really optional, unless your application is actually CPU-bound. The Unreal Engine probably is, to some degree. A simple 2D game like the one I'm working on certainly isn't. Not seeing it run any faster with FF 22, it's already smooth in older versions.
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marcosscriven 13y ago
So glad asm.js optimisations have been released. Though sadly it coincides with me having to pull something offline I cross-compiled to asm.js, due to GPL violations. But that's another story.
hesselink 13y ago
This is a great release! I wonder about this, though: > The stack trace is now shown as a breadcrumb near the top Who thought this was a good idea? This leaves room for about 3 items, whereas most stacks nowadays are much larger. A normal vertical list makes much more sense than a horizontal breadcrumb, IMHO.
- blueveek 13y ago
  If you right click on a breadcrumb, you'll get the vertical stack. But there's certainly room for some polishing.
sunils34 13y ago
There were rumors about third-party cookies being disabled by default in v22. I downloaded it and found this not to be true. Can anyone shed some light on when Mozilla plans on doing this? http://www.pcworld.com/article/2038956/mozilla-postpones-default-blocking-of-thirdparty-cookies-in-firefox.html http://www.pcworld.com/article/2038956/mozilla-postpones-def...
- Yoric 13y ago
  We're busy investigating possible unintended side-effects. So no precise calendar yet.
  - sunils34 13y ago
    Thanks for the update! We're working to have expected functionality when third party cookies being disabled. I'll keep an eye on when it's planned to be released.
  - opsmgmt 13y ago
    Is there a config flag to enable this?
    - keeperofdakeys 13y ago
      The option has been in firefox as far back as I can remember. It's in the Preferences, under Privacy; you'll need to select "Use custom settings for history". I've never noticed any breakage, and I assume in-part because iOS and Safari set it as their default a few years back.
jmilkbal 13y ago
The expectation of this release has been a fun ride for me. We were using long-live HTTP requests in our product for pushing data to the browser, a very elegant method but only implemented by Mozilla. Now were transitioning to websockets which aren't nearly as nice for this use, but I'm enjoying putting the newer, better-supported method in place on front- and back-ends.
milhous 13y ago
Aside from compatibility testing, does anyone here really use Firefox much? I use Safari, with Chrome on occasion. That's about it. I also recall that Firefox leaked a lot of memory, not sure if that's been fixed now. If it's the case that IE is now a decent browser and Windows people use that or Chrome, and Mac people using Safari, I'm just wondering what spot or niche Firefox fills. I suppose in the Linux world, Firefox and Chrome are the only major options.
- omaranto 13y ago
  Well, if you are a keyboard person and don't want to go to a niche browser (like dwb, vimperator or jumanji), then Firefox+pentadactyl is better than anything available for Chrome.
  - darkstalker 13y ago
    Don't forget about Tree Style Tab
- roryokane 13y ago
  I use Firefox on both Mac and Windows because of its extensions. Firefox allows its extensions to change more of the browser experience than other browsers do. I really love Tab Utilities (https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/tab-utilities/ https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/tab-utilities...), which helps me use my browser despite my 914 open tabs by making the New Tab command open the new tab directly to the right of the current tab, not all the way at the right. Other extensions that can only exist in Firefox include Copy Urls Expert (http://www.kashiif.com/firefox-extensions/copy-urls-expert/ http://www.kashiif.com/firefox-extensions/copy-urls-expert/) and Tree Style Tab (https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/tree-style-tab/ https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/tree-style-ta...).
- nnethercote 13y ago
  > I also recall that Firefox leaked a lot of memory, not sure if that's been fixed now. It has. See https://wiki.mozilla.org/Performance/MemShrink https://wiki.mozilla.org/Performance/MemShrink for details.
dotmanish 13y ago
As a Firefox mobile user, this one is the nicest one of them all for me: "Plain text files displayed within Firefox will now word-wrap" It was a pain to scroll sideways.
elmindreda 13y ago
Lots of nice changes, but Pentadactyl won't work with it. If you're using that, you may want to wait a few days.
- super_mario 13y ago
  Quit Firefox, vi into pentadactyl.xpi in your profile, edit install.rdf inside the xpi file (it's just a ZIP file) and modify the max supported version to 23. Save the install.rdf file, quit vi and start Firefox. Pentadactyl will work, with some minor regressions (e.g. Google home page search box now steals focus) and 's' (google search) command prints error message: Error: TypeError: keywords in null, but the search works. But otherwise everything else seems to work.
  - elmindreda 13y ago
    Cool, it worked. Thank you!
  - SilasX 13y ago
    Doesn't work, still thinks the version is incompatible. Still using 21 for now.
- Deadsunrise 13y ago
  you can go back to vimperator. I'm using it on 23.0a2 without problems.
  - elmindreda 13y ago
    I really don't like the way Vimperator works nowadays. It's why I moved to Pentadactyl.
trailfox 13y ago
Interesting to see where Firefox is the most popular these days: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Countries_by_most_used_web_browser_%28update%29.svg http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Countries_by_most_used_web...
- kijin 13y ago
  According to the infographic, Firefox seems to be popular in North Korea, with 33.79% market share. I suppose they don't censor StatCounter in Pyongyang? /jk
- trailfox 13y ago
  Firefox is very popular in central and north africa.
rrdharan 13y ago
Anyone know when it will be possible to remove the title bar on OS X? With tabs on top it's redundant and Firefox uses more vertical space than Safari or Chrome. There are various extensions floating around that claim to do this but they generally target much older versions of Firefox and don't work very well.
- blueveek 13y ago
  You may be interested in Australis, which removes the title bar by default. Scheduled for Firefox 25. Some (rather old) mockups here: https://people.mozilla.com/~shorlander/ux-presentation/ux-presentation.html https://people.mozilla.com/~shorlander/ux-presentation/ux-pr...
- MattDL 13y ago
  They're implementing it at the moment, release channel FF doesn't have the capability yet.
ymn_ayk 13y ago
I am very exited for webrtc in Firefox stable.
quackerhacker 13y ago
Some devs didn't know this, so since it's relevant... Firefox 21 and 22 support streaming MP4 in HTML5.
- kbrosnan 13y ago
  Only on Windows 7 and 8. Linux Gstreamer support just landed in nightly, preffed off. https://mobile.twitter.com/FirefoxNightly/status/349100622655651841 https://mobile.twitter.com/FirefoxNightly/status/34910062265... OS X is a bit more complicated due to needing to poke at Quicktime for the codecs.
  - quackerhacker 13y ago
    Didn't know that about nix, nice. I forgot to mention that about it being only supported on windows for now. Still waiting on Opera to make a move for mp4...especially with the promises that H.265 make in regards to reduced file sizes with great qualities. Although I know mp4 is patent encumbered, it's too prevalent to ignore (thanks to Apple and Microsoft products).
Claudus 13y ago
I was hoping they'd restore the old "split" Inspect Element UI, instead they added the option to dock it on the right side of the browser. Not what I was looking for, I wanted the Rules on the side in a column, and the inspector along the bottom like it used to be. Disappointed.
josteink 13y ago
It seems snappier, but I'm not sure I like the new text-scaling on high-DPI displays. Basically I just felt like I lost a lot of screen real-estate when surfing the news, like I was back in 1356x768 country. There needs to be some toggles which can be disabled or some other middle ground here.
- roryokane 13y ago
  You can zoom each affected site out from the View > Zoom menu. And the add-ons NoSquint (https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/nosquint/ https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/nosquint/) or Default FullZoom Level (https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/default-fullzoom-level/ https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/default-fullz...) let you set the default zoom for all sites.
arj 13y ago
This is so much better in Windows on a retina display
vasi 13y ago
My feature, progress bars for downloads in the OS X Dock, made Firefox 22! Hope you all like it, and be sure to report any bugs. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=548763 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=548763
Sami_Lehtinen 13y ago
Yet no TLS 1.2 support, vote for it: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=480514 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=480514
bad_user 13y ago
If you want to enjoy the asm.js optimizations, see this Unreal Engine demo: http://www.unrealengine.com/html5/ http://www.unrealengine.com/html5/ Firefox is awesome.
sheldor 13y ago
On my home PC , the third party cookie blocking was available since I was on the beta channel. The new stable version 22 does not include the option. Edit : It's officially off. So much for the privacy concerns .. http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9240218/Mozilla_again_postpones_Firefox_third_party_cookie_blocking_this_time_for_months http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9240218/Mozilla_again...
Shivetya 13y ago
Out of curiosity, does this solve the memory issues caused by bad websites? Example, I have open three sites and my firefox memory usage is constantly increasing. maps.google.com with route determined. Hackers News, this story. and the offending site, cycletrader.com where I chose a random ad from the front page that had more than one photo. All I did was cycle through the photos and leave the tab open. Internet Explorer to the same sites does not even come close to the memory usage. In the time it took me to write this I have seen firefox go from 235m to 1.2g memory and IE stayed steady at 100m

247 points by Techasura 13y ago

Release notes might be a more useful link: https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/22.0/releasenotes/ https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/22.0/releasenotes/

MrBra 13y ago
tnx mate :)
Sven7 13y ago
Wondering about the Web Speech API and speech input...Chrome does a great job, but doesn't seem to allow hooking up to 3rd party recognizers like Nuance or even something local. Anyone know how Mozilla is going to handle this? Are they going to use Google's recognizers in the cloud?

SideburnsOfDoom 13y ago

Release notes are here: http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/22.0/releasenotes/ http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/22.0/releasenotes/

callahad 13y ago

Not sure linking to the FTP mirror is all that useful. Here are the release notes: https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/22.0/releasenotes/ https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/22.0/releasenotes/ Highlights: WebRTC, asm.js, flexbox, and web notifications are present and enabled by default.

masklinn 13y ago
Also, clipboard data access. With Opera's switch to chromium, Firefox was the last browser without programmatic access to the clipboard[0] (though as usual MSIE has a non-standard implementation) so you had to listen for the paste event and post-process whatever garbage had been dumped in your paste area (and of course couldn't access high-level media types) [0] Opera, as far as I remember, has neither clipboard access nor a "paste" event, the POS.
- giorgosts 13y ago
  So can a website read a users clipboard, and if yes, how can we disable this "feature"?
  - mh- 13y ago
    No, not unless you initiate a paste operation manually (literally, as in by hitting ctrl-v or etc.) This is one of the ways that pasting images from your clipboard into, say, an image hosting site can work. I had a difficult time finding fuller explanations of the capabilities - mostly because there isn't a standard API across browsers yet - but here[1] are the relevant Safari docs. There's also a working draft[2] from the W3C for a standardized API. [1] http://developer.apple.com/library/mac/documentation/AppleApplications/Conceptual/SafariJSProgTopics/Tasks/CopyAndPaste.html http://developer.apple.com/library/mac/documentation/AppleAp... [2] http://www.w3.org/TR/clipboard-apis/ http://www.w3.org/TR/clipboard-apis/
    - giorgosts 13y ago
      Thanks, it's just brought back memories of IE6 where a website could arbitrarily read user clipboard without notice
      - oneeyedpigeon 13y ago
        What?! Are all those companies still using IE6 (and, consequently, holding back progress for the rest of us) aware of this massive security hole?
        vidarh 13y ago
        Hey, it's a feature. We can "fund" the time spent on IE6 workarounds by selling data obtained from paste buffers.
        jonknee 13y ago
        Companies using IE 6 have many more security problems than clipboard access.
joelthelion 13y ago
Are there any good web applications based on WebRTC yet?
- shacharz 13y ago
  Tell me what you think of this one: http://www.sharefest.me/ http://www.sharefest.me/
- mwarkentin 13y ago
  Group video chat: https://talky.io/ https://talky.io/
  - shacharz 13y ago
    I absolutely love your UI, and the game idea while waiting.
- changdizzle 13y ago
  or build your own! www.tokbox.com disclaimer: BD @ tokbox
- willaaye 13y ago
  Check out LiveNinja http://www.liveninja.com http://www.liveninja.com which is based on WebRTC for the video calls
numbnuts 13y ago
Don't forget ES6 fat arrows! That and right-dockable dev tools excites me more than they probably should. https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Mozilla/Firefox/Releases/22 https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Mozilla/Firefox/Rel...
- blueveek 13y ago
  The devtools are indeed dockable on the right now in FF 22, but not responsive yet (so when little horizontal real estate is available, the tools will look and feel very cramped). The upcoming versions address this issue (in the end, it's all just CSS; for example: [0]). [0] http://dxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/browser/themes/linux/devtools/netmonitor.css#l474 http://dxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/browser/themes...
_greim_ 13y ago
Oh weird. I remember trying out FlexBox three years ago and having it work in FF. Does this just mean they dropped the -moz- prefix requirement?
- masklinn 13y ago
  It's a bit more complex: there are actually 2 flexbox specs with different syntaxes, one from 2009 (now deprecated) and one from 2011[0]. Firefox has supported the old syntax circa Firefox 2 (Safari from 3.1, Chrome from the first version). This is about the new syntax and current CR. [0] http://css-tricks.com/old-flexbox-and-new-flexbox/ http://css-tricks.com/old-flexbox-and-new-flexbox/
  - bzbarsky 13y ago
    Firefox never supported the old flexbox. It has XUL boxes (dating back to 1998 or so), which the old flexbox was syntactically, and somewhat behaviorally based on. But they predate those drafts by 10 years.
    - masklinn 13y ago
      > Firefox never supported the old flexbox. I'm not sure why you're asserting that when you're completely wrong. Not only did Firefox support the old flexbox, it still does as of Firefox 22: [0] still works and uses the old (and prefixed) flexbox syntax, and said old (and prefixed) syntax remains documented on MDN with a note that it's deprecated[1] [0] http://www.the-haystack.com/2010/01/23/css3-flexbox-part-1/ http://www.the-haystack.com/2010/01/23/css3-flexbox-part-1/ [1] https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/CSS/-moz-box-flex https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/CSS/-moz-box-fl...
      - bzbarsky 13y ago
        My point is that the syntax in question is used for XUL boxes, and has been for going on 15 years. It's not used for any sort of implementation of the old flexbox draft. The old flexbox draft is similar to XUL boxes in some ways, and quite different in other ways. Trying to use XUL boxes and expecting the old-flexbox behavior as a result will land you in trouble, as happens with depressing regularity when people use "display: -moz-box". The MDN documentation is sadly wrong, because it ignores the fact that the properties _look_ similar but have totally different behavior. Thank you for pointing that out; I'll make sure it gets fixed.

ck2 13y ago

Some users are going to need to modify layout.css.devPixelsPerPx if you have overly large layout. My window size became massively zoomed.

kstop 13y ago

Looking forward to 25% of my automated functional tests failing for the next week!

robin_reala 13y ago
Why? Surely your code isn’t that fragile?
- kstop 13y ago
  er, no... /shifty_eyes I'm being melodramatic is all. The Selenium FF driver lags a little behind Firefox releases (totally understandable). Not a problem on my actual test boxes as I control the FF version on those, but it will lead to a week or so of devs (with FF auto-update set) complaining that tests are breaking locally. (Despite the fact that this situation and its remedy has been explained to them repeatedly.) It is possible that S2.33 will work fine with FF22, making all this moot. And it's just a passing annoyance. I have nothing but love for both applications.
  - robin_reala 13y ago
    Ah, Selenium, that makes more sense. Thanks for the update.

epmatsw 13y ago

I've felt like Firefox has been pretty light on features in its releases since it switched to rapid release, but this one is packed with stuff. Awesome! It's becoming more and more rare for me to have to switch to Chrome to get a website to work correctly/acceptably, and I love it! Great job by the Mozilla team

bjustin 13y ago
Which websites work better in Chrome? I use Safari these days, but when I used Firefox full time last year I didn't see any broken-ness.
- davidjohnstone 13y ago
  The only broken-ness I can remember seeing for a long time in Firefox is in those demos and other little projects that pop up here where the developer forgot that browsers other than Chrome exist (or, are using Chrome only features).
- epmatsw 13y ago
  I've had some issues with internal sites I use at work that are auto-generated Microsoft stuff. And for a while I couldn't get the new Google Maps to load every time on Firefox. It seems to be have been fixed at some point since it runs fine in Nightly now though.
- hosay123 13y ago
  I am for all intents and purposes a massive Mozilla fanboy, however I regularly switch to Chromium to use any nontrivial 2D graphics js (e.g. the Python plop profiler). Not sure why, but Firefox definitely seems to have a weak spot around 2d (SVG?) performance
  - bloodorange 13y ago
    I submitted three (minor) patches for improving the performance of a couple of filters in Mozilla's SVG code. Those (minor) optimisations should be in this release. I hope to do a lot more. I too, like you, am a Mozilla fanboy. Unfortunately, in the last few months, I have a lot of pressure at my day-job (a few sudden departures). Nevertheless, I did contribute when I could spare the time and I urge you to do likewise. If there are enough of us, then there's always someone helping them out. It's a massive project and needs all the hands that kind developers are willing to spare.

zanny 13y ago

It randomly segfaults on Arch with no error report and a trace says it comes from libgobject. So I went up the stack, every one except nightly is segfaulting. Guess I'm on nightly for a while!

PedroBatista 13y ago
Well, you are on Arch, so that is the default version you should use. :-D
- yogo 13y ago
  Arch has never been that bleeding edge.
  - zanny 13y ago
    It's actually a pain in the butt to run anything but release firefox on Arch, because you either need to use a 3rd party repo or some AUR wrapper to auto-update the aur package. That, and Nightly is kind of painful because its a 60MB update daily. I'm probably going to be skipping a lot of updates on it =P
    - shardling 13y ago
      >That, and Nightly is kind of painful because its a 60MB update daily. I'm probably going to be skipping a lot of updates on it =P Is that a Linux/Arch specific problem? On OSX it'll download partial updates at just a few MB -- at least so long as you really do keep it updated nightly.
      - sp332 13y ago
        Well if you use the system package manager, and it doesn't support and use differential updates, then you have to download the whole package from your distribution's repository.
    - isaacaggrey 13y ago

mrspeaker 13y ago

Oh yeah - short function syntax goes into the wild! let square = x => x * x Time to move over to stalking the Chrome devs...

siddboots 13y ago
Yay. Sometimes I wish we still did release parties.
creatio 13y ago
Can this syntax be also used with the other browsers? i.e. IE and Chrome?
- siddboots 13y ago
  Not yet, but it is in the ECMAScript 6 draft, so it will most likely be adopted eventually.
- ajryan 13y ago
  TypeScript supports this syntax. I believe they are trying to align with ECMAScript 6 as much as possible.
  - bad_user 13y ago
    The nice thing about TypeScript is that it compiles to EcmaScript 3, so you can target older browsers and still use these goodies. Also, TypeScript 0.9 is released, which includes niceties such as generics and type info overloading based on constant values passed in function parameters. It's pretty slick, if only it could output code optimized for Google Closure's advanced mode, for tree-shaking awesomeness.
blueveek 13y ago
Not to mention that |this| is lexically bound in the case of fat arrow functions. No more ".bind(this)" or "let self = this;" everywhere! https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/JavaScript/Reference/arrow_functions#Lexical_this https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/JavaScript/Refe...

mmuro 13y ago

I love Firefox. But, it's about damn time to remove the scroll bars on Mac OS X. This was a Lion feature and we're almost two versions removed from that.

AaronMT 13y ago
Not a whole lot of Mac OSX dev's contributing to the project these days. Doing what we can.
- Yoric 13y ago
  Actually, it's more "not a whole lot of MacOSX devs contributing to the UX these days." Plenty of MacOS X devs contributing everywhere else.
msujaws 13y ago
The scrollbars are fixed in version 23. Download Firefox Beta, Aurora, or Nightly and you will get them :)
- mmuro 13y ago
  That's fantastic! I guess it's coming in July or August?
  - sp332 13y ago
    Yup, Firefox is on a 6-week release cycle so it should be in the first week of August. (Right now 22 is "release", 23 is "beta", 24 is "aurora" and 25 is "nightly".)
  - bzbarsky 13y ago
    23 is early August. https://wiki.mozilla.org/RapidRelease/Calendar https://wiki.mozilla.org/RapidRelease/Calendar has all the dates.
abrowne 13y ago
They're in Nightly[1]. I've been running UX nightly[2] for the new tab design for a few months with little to no issues with stability. [1]: http://nightly.mozilla.org/ http://nightly.mozilla.org/ [2]: http://people.mozilla.org/~jwein/ux-nightly/ http://people.mozilla.org/~jwein/ux-nightly/

noelwelsh 13y ago

If you're a fan of Firefox I recommend using Aurora: http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/aurora/ Aurora is basically the beta of Firefox. It seems to get incremental updates more regularly than Firefox. It very occasionally has issues with compatibility with plugins (usually when a version number is bumped) but I can't recall any stability issues in the few years I've been using it.

shacharz 13y ago
There is Firefox beta channel, aurora is a bit less stable. Usually aurora still gets uncooked features pushed in, while beta only receives preffed features, unpreffed stable features or bug fixes
- sandyarmstrong 13y ago
  Yeah, in my experience Aurora is occasional work-interrupting pain, whereas beta is blissful: http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/beta/ http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/beta/ It doesn't update super frequently during the 6-week release cycle. Maybe once a week tops, I think? Hard to be sure, as I restart FF every few days anyway.
  - cpeterso 13y ago
    Mozilla updates Firefox Beta once a week, but there is debate about twice weekly (Monday/Thursday) updates.
  - mlinksva 13y ago
    Before Aurora there's also http://nightly.mozilla.org/ http://nightly.mozilla.org/ one update/day. I've run it since shortly after they moved to a six week cycle (I ran Aurora initially) and have never had work loss. Only once in that period have I had to downgrade to Aurora for a day (the nightly build seemed broken, crashed on startup). Overall I'm very happy with getting features and speedups ~18 weeks before general release. BTW, they must have more or less completely solved the add-ons version compatibility problem that was initially a big pain when they moved to the six week cycle; I haven't noticed any disabled or broken add-ons in a very long time.

ianstormtaylor 13y ago

Flexbox. It's finally almost here. I cannot tell you how long I've waited for this to be supported by default in all of these browsers... as soon as Safari 7 is released, us developer sites will actually be able to make the switch. I honestly think wrangling the hacky current layout solutions is 25% or more of my time spent with CSS on a project, so hopefully we'll be able to build things much more quickly. Happy day.

pjmlp 13y ago

Still no resizable bookmarks window.

brokenparser 13y ago
Except for the bookmarks window. Can you elaborate?
- pjmlp 13y ago
  Since the days Firefox 3 it is no longer possible to resize the bookmarks window you get when you press Ctrl+D or click star. The solution was to hack userchrome.css or install OpenBook add on. However it is no longer being kept up to date with Firefox. A possible update for it is to use Edit Bookmark Plus instead. Some information here, https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=418864 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=418864
  - shardling 13y ago
    Calling that the "bookmarks window" will just confuse people. It's not a window.
    - pjmlp 13y ago
      A GUI widget then.
kbrosnan 13y ago
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/edit-bookmark-plus/ https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/edit-bookmark... covers that use case.
Narretz 13y ago
I think the bookmark overlay has not received updates in a long time. If you use it often with many tabs, it's actually quite a pain to use it.

MattDL 13y ago

Looking nice, hope they continue to improve performance and stability too. Having a huge amount of issues with the flash plugin at the moment, not sure if that's their fault or Adobe's though.

brokenparser 13y ago
Firefox can't do anything to prevent a plugin from crashing. That and I'd wager most of the Flash movies are very poorly coded, resulting in exceptions that could've been prevented. You can tell by browsing the web with a debug build of Flash.

niutech 13y ago

The OdinMonkey engine performance is impressive. The Lua VM benchmark[1] jumped from 110 points in Firefox 21 to 318 points in Firefox 22! Not to mention poor performance of Chrome. Next, have a look at the Epic Citadel[2], which runs very smoothly in Firefox 22. Well done! [1] http://kripken.github.io/lua.vm.js/lua.vm.js.html http://kripken.github.io/lua.vm.js/lua.vm.js.html [2] http://www.unrealengine.com/html5/ http://www.unrealengine.com/html5/

masklinn 13y ago
The Lua VM benchmark seems to be compiled to asm.js though, how does chrome fare when not targeting asmjs?
- pornel 13y ago
  • Chrome 29.0.1546.0 canary: 91 points • Firefox nightly 25.0a1 (2013-06-26): 403 points MBP i7 2.2Ghz
- azakai 13y ago
  It would probably be slower with emscripten in non-asm.js mode (asm.js format is more careful to not change types at runtime, etc.), based on benchmarks I've tested in the past. Have not tested on this particular one, though, if you check it out please let us know.
fhd2 13y ago
It's a bit unfair to mention Chrome performing poorly on these. Both are asm.js, which OdinMonkey is optimised for, V8 not. That said, I'm very excited about asm.js (using it, in fact) and the performance in FF 22 blows me away as well. The V8 team appears to be working on asm.js optimisations, so soon we can have a fair contest :) The best thing about asm.js is that the optimisations are really optional, unless your application is actually CPU-bound. The Unreal Engine probably is, to some degree. A simple 2D game like the one I'm working on certainly isn't. Not seeing it run any faster with FF 22, it's already smooth in older versions.
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marcosscriven 13y ago

So glad asm.js optimisations have been released. Though sadly it coincides with me having to pull something offline I cross-compiled to asm.js, due to GPL violations. But that's another story.

hesselink 13y ago

This is a great release! I wonder about this, though: > The stack trace is now shown as a breadcrumb near the top Who thought this was a good idea? This leaves room for about 3 items, whereas most stacks nowadays are much larger. A normal vertical list makes much more sense than a horizontal breadcrumb, IMHO.

blueveek 13y ago
If you right click on a breadcrumb, you'll get the vertical stack. But there's certainly room for some polishing.

sunils34 13y ago

There were rumors about third-party cookies being disabled by default in v22. I downloaded it and found this not to be true. Can anyone shed some light on when Mozilla plans on doing this? http://www.pcworld.com/article/2038956/mozilla-postpones-default-blocking-of-thirdparty-cookies-in-firefox.html http://www.pcworld.com/article/2038956/mozilla-postpones-def...

Yoric 13y ago
We're busy investigating possible unintended side-effects. So no precise calendar yet.
- sunils34 13y ago
  Thanks for the update! We're working to have expected functionality when third party cookies being disabled. I'll keep an eye on when it's planned to be released.
- opsmgmt 13y ago
  Is there a config flag to enable this?
  - keeperofdakeys 13y ago
    The option has been in firefox as far back as I can remember. It's in the Preferences, under Privacy; you'll need to select "Use custom settings for history". I've never noticed any breakage, and I assume in-part because iOS and Safari set it as their default a few years back.

jmilkbal 13y ago

The expectation of this release has been a fun ride for me. We were using long-live HTTP requests in our product for pushing data to the browser, a very elegant method but only implemented by Mozilla. Now were transitioning to websockets which aren't nearly as nice for this use, but I'm enjoying putting the newer, better-supported method in place on front- and back-ends.

milhous 13y ago

Aside from compatibility testing, does anyone here really use Firefox much? I use Safari, with Chrome on occasion. That's about it. I also recall that Firefox leaked a lot of memory, not sure if that's been fixed now. If it's the case that IE is now a decent browser and Windows people use that or Chrome, and Mac people using Safari, I'm just wondering what spot or niche Firefox fills. I suppose in the Linux world, Firefox and Chrome are the only major options.

omaranto 13y ago
Well, if you are a keyboard person and don't want to go to a niche browser (like dwb, vimperator or jumanji), then Firefox+pentadactyl is better than anything available for Chrome.
- darkstalker 13y ago
  Don't forget about Tree Style Tab
roryokane 13y ago
I use Firefox on both Mac and Windows because of its extensions. Firefox allows its extensions to change more of the browser experience than other browsers do. I really love Tab Utilities (https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/tab-utilities/ https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/tab-utilities...), which helps me use my browser despite my 914 open tabs by making the New Tab command open the new tab directly to the right of the current tab, not all the way at the right. Other extensions that can only exist in Firefox include Copy Urls Expert (http://www.kashiif.com/firefox-extensions/copy-urls-expert/ http://www.kashiif.com/firefox-extensions/copy-urls-expert/) and Tree Style Tab (https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/tree-style-tab/ https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/tree-style-ta...).
nnethercote 13y ago
> I also recall that Firefox leaked a lot of memory, not sure if that's been fixed now. It has. See https://wiki.mozilla.org/Performance/MemShrink https://wiki.mozilla.org/Performance/MemShrink for details.

dotmanish 13y ago

As a Firefox mobile user, this one is the nicest one of them all for me: "Plain text files displayed within Firefox will now word-wrap" It was a pain to scroll sideways.

elmindreda 13y ago

Lots of nice changes, but Pentadactyl won't work with it. If you're using that, you may want to wait a few days.

super_mario 13y ago
Quit Firefox, vi into pentadactyl.xpi in your profile, edit install.rdf inside the xpi file (it's just a ZIP file) and modify the max supported version to 23. Save the install.rdf file, quit vi and start Firefox. Pentadactyl will work, with some minor regressions (e.g. Google home page search box now steals focus) and 's' (google search) command prints error message: Error: TypeError: keywords in null, but the search works. But otherwise everything else seems to work.
- elmindreda 13y ago
  Cool, it worked. Thank you!
- SilasX 13y ago
  Doesn't work, still thinks the version is incompatible. Still using 21 for now.
Deadsunrise 13y ago
you can go back to vimperator. I'm using it on 23.0a2 without problems.
- elmindreda 13y ago
  I really don't like the way Vimperator works nowadays. It's why I moved to Pentadactyl.

trailfox 13y ago

Interesting to see where Firefox is the most popular these days: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Countries_by_most_used_web_browser_%28update%29.svg http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Countries_by_most_used_web...

kijin 13y ago
According to the infographic, Firefox seems to be popular in North Korea, with 33.79% market share. I suppose they don't censor StatCounter in Pyongyang? /jk
trailfox 13y ago
Firefox is very popular in central and north africa.

rrdharan 13y ago

Anyone know when it will be possible to remove the title bar on OS X? With tabs on top it's redundant and Firefox uses more vertical space than Safari or Chrome. There are various extensions floating around that claim to do this but they generally target much older versions of Firefox and don't work very well.

blueveek 13y ago
You may be interested in Australis, which removes the title bar by default. Scheduled for Firefox 25. Some (rather old) mockups here: https://people.mozilla.com/~shorlander/ux-presentation/ux-presentation.html https://people.mozilla.com/~shorlander/ux-presentation/ux-pr...
MattDL 13y ago
They're implementing it at the moment, release channel FF doesn't have the capability yet.

ymn_ayk 13y ago

I am very exited for webrtc in Firefox stable.

quackerhacker 13y ago

Some devs didn't know this, so since it's relevant... Firefox 21 and 22 support streaming MP4 in HTML5.

kbrosnan 13y ago
Only on Windows 7 and 8. Linux Gstreamer support just landed in nightly, preffed off. https://mobile.twitter.com/FirefoxNightly/status/349100622655651841 https://mobile.twitter.com/FirefoxNightly/status/34910062265... OS X is a bit more complicated due to needing to poke at Quicktime for the codecs.
- quackerhacker 13y ago
  Didn't know that about nix, nice. I forgot to mention that about it being only supported on windows for now. Still waiting on Opera to make a move for mp4...especially with the promises that H.265 make in regards to reduced file sizes with great qualities. Although I know mp4 is patent encumbered, it's too prevalent to ignore (thanks to Apple and Microsoft products).

Claudus 13y ago

I was hoping they'd restore the old "split" Inspect Element UI, instead they added the option to dock it on the right side of the browser. Not what I was looking for, I wanted the Rules on the side in a column, and the inspector along the bottom like it used to be. Disappointed.

josteink 13y ago

It seems snappier, but I'm not sure I like the new text-scaling on high-DPI displays. Basically I just felt like I lost a lot of screen real-estate when surfing the news, like I was back in 1356x768 country. There needs to be some toggles which can be disabled or some other middle ground here.

roryokane 13y ago
You can zoom each affected site out from the View > Zoom menu. And the add-ons NoSquint (https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/nosquint/ https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/nosquint/) or Default FullZoom Level (https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/default-fullzoom-level/ https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/default-fullz...) let you set the default zoom for all sites.

arj 13y ago

This is so much better in Windows on a retina display

vasi 13y ago

My feature, progress bars for downloads in the OS X Dock, made Firefox 22! Hope you all like it, and be sure to report any bugs. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=548763 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=548763

Sami_Lehtinen 13y ago

Yet no TLS 1.2 support, vote for it: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=480514 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=480514

bad_user 13y ago

If you want to enjoy the asm.js optimizations, see this Unreal Engine demo: http://www.unrealengine.com/html5/ http://www.unrealengine.com/html5/ Firefox is awesome.

sheldor 13y ago

On my home PC , the third party cookie blocking was available since I was on the beta channel. The new stable version 22 does not include the option. Edit : It's officially off. So much for the privacy concerns .. http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9240218/Mozilla_again_postpones_Firefox_third_party_cookie_blocking_this_time_for_months http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9240218/Mozilla_again...

Shivetya 13y ago

Out of curiosity, does this solve the memory issues caused by bad websites? Example, I have open three sites and my firefox memory usage is constantly increasing. maps.google.com with route determined. Hackers News, this story. and the offending site, cycletrader.com where I chose a random ad from the front page that had more than one photo. All I did was cycle through the photos and leave the tab open. Internet Explorer to the same sites does not even come close to the memory usage. In the time it took me to write this I have seen firefox go from 235m to 1.2g memory and IE stayed steady at 100m