> They have these amazing things called IP addresses that tell you what country traffic is coming from. I'd be embarrassed for our intelligence agencies if tha

> They have these amazing things called IP addresses that tell you what country traffic is coming from. I'd be embarrassed for our intelligence agencies if that's all they looked at. (a) Americans travel abroad, an American Skyping home should be completely covered under the 4th. (b) Foreign actors are perfectly capable of using proxies, either human or electronic. > "Private" for the purposes of the 4th amendment means "inside your desk drawer" private, not just "not public." If I mail a letter to Bob, it is private to both Bob and I. If I save a document to Google Docs over https, it is private to both Google and I. Assuming Google honors that privacy (big assumption, I know), how does that not qualify as "desk drawer private"? > The Constitution determines the rights and obligations of Americans to each other and those on U.S. soil. Absolutely; I'm not arguing a legal imperative not to spy indiscriminately on foreigners. I'm stating a moral imperative not to do so. There are ways in which I believe the current spying activity violates the Constitution as-is, and yet I also believe we need to new laws to safeguard the values of human liberty that the Constitution is meant to enshrine and defend, for all humans and not just citizens. (And yes, that includes restraints on corporate power in addition to government power.)