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> As an app developer, this data allows me to measurably improve my apps. I don't give a flying f#ck about that, sorry. This is my device and I don't like my d

> As an app developer, this data allows me to measurably improve my apps. I don't give a flying f#ck about that, sorry. This is my device and I don't like my device connecting god knows where at a whim. As I said, if you were to tell your app users upfront that you will be tracking their usage, anonymous or not, and gave them an option to opt out, very few would not opt out. This is the exact same inherent need for privacy that is fueling current NSA debacle. It may be irrational, but it pretty damn real. People don't like to be tracked or watched.

stathism 13y ago
You may want to consider a flip phone but even that has a GPS for 911... A/B testing is the least of your problems. If you are that concerned about privacy get off the cell network, root your phone with AOSP or your own OS and most importantly do not install any apps that you have not built. At that point consider A/B testing as it could greatly improve your user experience ;-). Joke aside I understand your concern but this is really not the right place to start.
jaegerpicker 13y ago
I think that frankly you are roundly wrong. Most users just don't care that they are anonymously being tracked or monitored. Most users what good, ease to use, reliable apps that do something interesting. If it phones home to google most people just don't care. The NSA scandal was mostly met with a loud "meh?" from most people. The media is pushing it as a story but really only techies give a shit about it. I'm not saying it's right but I'm pretty sure that's the general feeling about it with the general public. Anon analytics make better apps. It's a good thing for users all the way around. Better apps == a better user experience, that doesn't happen without better data.
- pbsdp 13y ago
  > Most users just don't care that they are anonymously being tracked or monitored. Most users don't know, because you didn't tell them. > Anon analytics make better apps. Highly debatable.
  - smtddr 13y ago
    >> Anon analytics make better apps. > Highly debatable. How can that be debatable? If you see 45% of crashes happen on the photo-upload screen, isn't that some kind of clue where to look? I really don't think anyone can argue that analytics are not helpful in improving app quality. Please, if anyone can even play devil's advocate on that... please do. But you better make a throwaway account 'cuz I suspect you'll be buried into oblivion and ghost-banned.
    - pbsdp 13y ago
      The crash report backtrace can be gathered on-demand, after asking the user's permission. On-demand user-approved crash reporting is not usually what people mean by phone-home 'analytics'. > But you better make a throwaway account 'cuz I suspect you'll be buried into oblivion and ghost-banned. That's pretty rude.

stathism 13y ago

You may want to consider a flip phone but even that has a GPS for 911... A/B testing is the least of your problems. If you are that concerned about privacy get off the cell network, root your phone with AOSP or your own OS and most importantly do not install any apps that you have not built. At that point consider A/B testing as it could greatly improve your user experience ;-). Joke aside I understand your concern but this is really not the right place to start.

jaegerpicker 13y ago

I think that frankly you are roundly wrong. Most users just don't care that they are anonymously being tracked or monitored. Most users what good, ease to use, reliable apps that do something interesting. If it phones home to google most people just don't care. The NSA scandal was mostly met with a loud "meh?" from most people. The media is pushing it as a story but really only techies give a shit about it. I'm not saying it's right but I'm pretty sure that's the general feeling about it with the general public. Anon analytics make better apps. It's a good thing for users all the way around. Better apps == a better user experience, that doesn't happen without better data.

pbsdp 13y ago
> Most users just don't care that they are anonymously being tracked or monitored. Most users don't know, because you didn't tell them. > Anon analytics make better apps. Highly debatable.
- smtddr 13y ago
  >> Anon analytics make better apps. > Highly debatable. How can that be debatable? If you see 45% of crashes happen on the photo-upload screen, isn't that some kind of clue where to look? I really don't think anyone can argue that analytics are not helpful in improving app quality. Please, if anyone can even play devil's advocate on that... please do. But you better make a throwaway account 'cuz I suspect you'll be buried into oblivion and ghost-banned.
  - pbsdp 13y ago
    The crash report backtrace can be gathered on-demand, after asking the user's permission. On-demand user-approved crash reporting is not usually what people mean by phone-home 'analytics'. > But you better make a throwaway account 'cuz I suspect you'll be buried into oblivion and ghost-banned. That's pretty rude.