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That's what I was thinking. Isn't Mars in a habitable zone as well?
by 3825 13y ago
That's what I was thinking. Isn't Mars in a habitable zone as well?
- Zardoz84 13y agoIt's in the border. In theory can be terraformed.
- arethuza 13y agoLooks like it depends how you define "habitable zone" - it seems that if you are conservative about it (i.e. Earth sized planets remaining habitable) then Mars is actually outside of that zone: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circumstellar_habitable_zone http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circumstellar_habitable_zone
- chc 13y agoI see don't see where that article suggests that Mars is outside the habitable zone by any reasonable estimate. The only part I see questioning Mars's position suggests that Mars might actually not be as close to the edge as we think. Mars's lack of habitability is partly because of its position, but also partly due to other factors like its lack of a magnetic field and atmosphere. If you somehow "poofed" a copy of Earth into Mars's place, I think it would be considered habitable (but still not really for humans), though I'm not really qualified to say that with any certainty.
- arethuza 13y agoIn the diagram in that article the dark green band is the conservative habitable zone - the orbit of Mars looks to be pretty much completely outside of that area.
- jerf 13y agoVenus is right on the edge too. We don't have to be wrong by much for it to be habitable, in theory. One can imagine a world covered in clouds, but with a habitable surface, or some set of geological structures that go high enough to be cool enough to live on. Earth life might not like it there, but we've got extremophiles already here on Earth living in similar conditions. Mars and Venus provide instructive examples on why being in the zone is merely one small prerequisite. We talk about it because it's just about the only characteristic of these planets we can see, not because it's the only important characteristic. Mars has too little atmosphere, among other problems, and Venus has way the hell (word chosen advisedly) too much.
- CodeCube 13y agowe built this (cloud) city on rock and roooollll!
- 3825 13y agoI didn't understand your comment until I glanced at the wikipedia article for the atmosphere of Venus[1]. With a surface air pressure of 92x and carbon dioxide making 96.5% of the atmosphere, the surface of Venus is a no-go even before considering the extreme winds. >The atmosphere of Venus is much denser and hotter than that of Earth. [...] The main atmospheric gases are carbon dioxide and nitrogen. Other chemical compounds are present only in trace amounts. >Despite the harsh conditions on the surface, the atmospheric pressure and temperature at about 50 km to 65 km above the surface of the planet is nearly the same as that of the Earth, making its upper atmosphere the most Earth-like area in the Solar System, even more so than the surface of Mars. Due to the similarity in pressure and temperature and the fact that breathable air (21% oxygen, 78% nitrogen) is a lifting gas on Venus in the same way that helium is a lifting gas on Earth, the upper atmosphere has been proposed as a location for both exploration and colonization. [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atmosphere_of_Venus https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atmosphere_of_Venus
- afterburner 13y agoNo; no liquid water at the surface. http://www.astro.sunysb.edu/fwalter/AST101/habzone.html http://www.astro.sunysb.edu/fwalter/AST101/habzone.html http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circumstellar_habitable_zone http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circumstellar_habitable_zone EDIT: to be more precise, the conditions aren't right for there to be liquid water at the surface.