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It's always an uphill battle for us (Addison Wesley Professional Ruby Series) to get official recognition from DHH since we're not part of the pragprog clique.
by obiefernandez 13y ago
It's always an uphill battle for us (Addison Wesley Professional Ruby Series) to get official recognition from DHH since we're not part of the pragprog clique.
The latest rewrite of my book for Rails 4 is available at http://leanpub.com/tr4w http://leanpub.com/tr4w
Michael Hartl's Rails Tutorial has also been fully updated. See http://news.railstutorial.org/ruby-on-rails-tutorial-rails-4-beta/ http://news.railstutorial.org/ruby-on-rails-tutorial-rails-4... for all links to relevant material.
- cobrabyte 13y agoThat's unfortunate because, of all the Rails books I've purchased through the years, yours and Hartl's are the best for my particular learning style. Doubt it's just me...
- obiefernandez 13y agoIt's not just you. Our sales are very strong and growing year on year. I'm very happy with the perfoance of the series. Sandy Metz's new book is getting rave reviews everywhere.
- jerhinesmith 13y agoI just finished Sandy Metz's book, and it is fantastic. Easily one of the best ruby books I've read; I can't recommend it enough.
- zachgersh 13y agoWhat is her new book? I am assuming you mean the next book after POODR?
- mhartl 13y agoNo, he's referring to POODR, which is "new" in the sense that it's been released recently compared to books like The Rails Way and the Ruby on Rails Tutorial.
- jaigouk 13y agowell, I purchased "merb in action" and waited for a while when it happend. But IMHO, rails4 books are good.
- rubiquity 13y agoThat's unfortunate. Eloquent Ruby and POODR are two of my dearest Ruby books. Rails Anti-Patterns was another great book. If DHH and Co. don't want to recognize some of the great books you and others have churned out, at least take solace in the fact that many in the community appreciate your hard work.
- dpritchett 13y agoSame here. My three favorite Ruby books are POODR, Eloquent Ruby, and Hartl's tutorial.
- marcamillion 13y agoI LOOOOOOOVE Eloquent Ruby - Russ Olsen's writing style is so awesome. Design Patterns in Ruby is just as enjoyable. I have never heard of POODR before...but given that so many people are listing it in the same "top list" as Eloquent Ruby - I am definitely gonna get it. Hartl's tutorial was a bit much for me. I don't think when I was just learning Rails, to be thrown into TDD was wayy too much and made it much less enjoyable. I think if there was a "no-TDD" path, it would have been better....or maybe some way to explain the TDD aspect more clearly.
- shunya 13y agoThumbs up for eloquent ruby, fantastic book
- jazearbrooks 13y agoOn Hartl's site, the most recent update is from May 15th for Rails 4.0 rc1. I'll feel more comfortable when Michael confirms the tutorial is valid for the final release.
- obiefernandez 13y agoI know for a fact he's been working a lot on it. I'll give him a heads up to come comment on it here. Stay tuned
- mhartl 13y agoI just pushed the update.
- jazearbrooks 13y agoawesome, thanks
- mhartl 13y agoI updated the book for RC2 the day it came out (announced on Twitter at https://twitter.com/railstutorial/status/344981158825689088; https://twitter.com/railstutorial/status/344981158825689088; it just didn't merit a post on the news feed), and I've just updated it for 4.0 final.
- ique 13y agoYour book for me is the de-facto standard Rails bible and it's what I always recommend to new learners. I find it very strange that it's not the top official recommendation.
- scubasteve 13y agoThis is exactly the comment I was looking for. Has anyone read both this and Hartl's tutorial? What are the strengths of this book over Hartl's?
- mhartl 13y agoThe Rails Tutorial is a step-by-step approach to learning web development with Rails, which covers selective features of the framework as needed, whereas The Rails Way is a comprehensive reference covering the entire framework. Between them, they're a good one-two punch to go from Rails newcomer to expert.
- sshconnection 13y agoI'd figure that it's more due to differing opinions on things like Test::Unit vs Rspec, Haml vs Erb etc than your publisher. Still, not a good excuse to go unrecognized. RW3 was excellent, and I'm sure 4 is as well. Best of luck.
- stiff 13y ago"The Rails 3 Way" certainly wasn't excellent, it was clearly a rushed update of the original "The Rails Way", it uses a lot of old practices all over the place and the stuff new in Rails 3 is just added as an afterthought.
- obiefernandez 13y agoAuthor here. It took nearly two years to get that rewrite done. A lot of things changed in Rails 3 right at the end of our production cycle so admittedly it was a challenge to get it all to the finish line in the best possible way. That won't be the case with the new edition. I have a stellar team helping me get this done properly and we're using the excellent Leanpub system to release the book incrementally and ensure the finished product is of the highest quality. Much different situation.
- subpixel 13y agoJust ordered tr4w - at leanpub it says "These authors use Leanpub to publish this book independently." I'm just curious whether that's accurate, since you refer to Addison-Wesley as "us"? Thanks
- obiefernandez 13y agoI have a special arrangement with AW to publish independently via leanpub. Book will also be on sale via traditional retail channels once the hardcopy is ready later this year. We view it as separate channels. Traditional retail hits a different customer segment, especially when you start taking into account corporate subscribers to Safari and companies that do bulk purchases, etc.
- shimms 13y agoR3W was a great help when I was getting started with Rails. Thank you :) I just purchased R4W, looking forward to brushing up.
- jsnk 13y agoWhat does it mean when it says the book is 75% complete? If you purchase the book now, will it get updated later for free?
- obiefernandez 13y agoYes. We're rolling out a new update this week. Been a tough confluence of events for me personally - demo day for my TechStars startup is 2 days from now
- matt_ 13y agoAre you going to be releasing a print version?
- kfaustino 13y agoPrint version should be available Q4 this year
- zachgersh 13y agoJust bought a copy. Was always a little bit tentative about reading Rails 3 way since 4 ways right around the corner. Glad to have it and you can't beat the price!