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It makes China look like a good world citizen and the US look like a self righteous sabre rattling bully.
by ra 13y ago
It makes China look like a good world citizen and the US look like a self righteous sabre rattling bully.
- threeseed 13y agoWell only if you are incredibly ignorant or have selective amnesia. China is far, far from a good world citizen. They commit some of the worst human rights abuses, have rampant censorship and lest we forget their system of government is hardly democratic.
- gwgarry 13y agoKettle meet pot. The different being overt vs. covert.
- rimantas 13y agoFrom where I sit US does not look that much different. Guantanamo, extraordinary rendition, drone, all this PRISM stuff.
- alistair77 13y agoI agree. But the second part of the statement is still true, "the US look like a self righteous sabre rattling bully"
- veidr 13y agoI think "it makes China look better" would be more accurate. China is a brutal[1] totalitarian regime without the rule of law, freedom of speech, freedom of the press, or basic civil rights that people in much of the developed world take for granted. But over the past 12 years, the USA looks increasingly like a brutal[2] authoritarian regime without the rule of law, an informed electorate, or basic civil rights that people in much of the developed world take for granted. That doesn't make China look good. But it makes China look a whole lot more normal as a powerful nation. [1]: torture, secret prisons, indefinite detention without trial, forced abortions, etc [2]: torture, secret prisons, indefinite detention without trial, assassination, lack of basic healthcare, etc
- michas 13y agoThat's because leaders of US and China are both socialists. Similarities between the two will gradually increase
- Isofarro 13y agoThe US has lost it's moral high ground over freedom and privacy, it's bordering on hypocritical. We know the Chinese government at the national level can see at any time what is going on in Chinese variants of social networking sites (from the basis that all these servers are typically hosted in Beijing). What we didn't know was the US are doing this at a global level, and they have been trying to keep it secret all this time. That's something we did not realistically expect. In this particular instance, the US is no better than China in respecting and protecting the privacy of individuals, and not impinging on their freedoms. Snowden did the US citizens and the world a favour by exposing Prism. Now we can do something about it. Now we can seriously decide how important our privacy is. We see how deep the rabbit hole is. That's a starting point to correcting this.
- mmariani 13y agoWell only if you are incredibly ignorant or have selective amnesia. The US is far, far from a good world citizen. They commit some of the worst human rights abuses, have rampant censorship and lest we forget their system of government is hardly democratic. PS: apart from the achromatic base colors, nothing in life is that black and white.
- ra 13y agoTo clarify, I was referring to the public statements made by China and the US regarding Snowdon and his revelations (you know, this thread?). Also I sad, 'look like'.
- chj 13y agoChina doesn't look any better, US OTOH looks much worse right now.