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> What program broke it? I'm not going to limit my view to an incomplete set of documents written by no-credibility liars and rubber stamped by secret courts.
by marshray 13y ago
> What program broke it?
I'm not going to limit my view to an incomplete set of documents written by no-credibility liars and rubber stamped by secret courts. When multiple independent sources, people who actually worked there, come out and say "no it's far far more than even that, they're on a mission to collect everything", I tend to believe them.
So you tell me...
What was the "program" authorizing Room 641A?
How many other "fiber taps" are there? (as alluded to in the PRISM doc)
What data is being collected?
Or rather, what data is not being collected?
The fact that we don't know the answers to these questions because they are being deliberately withheld from us means that we are not "secure against unreasonable searches".
- mpyne 13y ago641A? Probably ECPA in conjuction with FISA. Likewise for fiber taps. The real "innovation" there is how much domestic data is allowed to be captured by accident and then minimized later. Might meet with the letter of the law, but definitely not the spirit! > The fact that we don't know the answers to these questions because they are being deliberately withheld from us means that we are not "secure against unreasonable searches". Well, the lack of an answer to this isn't what is violating the 4th Amendment. If they answered "we record everything" you'd have your answer but would presumably still feel that your rights are being violated.
- marshray 13y agoIf you don't know whether or not your rights are being violated, you're not "free".