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Well, I do agree that independent events can be treated independently. I think the one big thing I can't get around is the cognitive dissonance of wanting more
by mpyne 13y ago
Well, I do agree that independent events can be treated independently.
I think the one big thing I can't get around is the cognitive dissonance of wanting more of the 'rule of law' around things like FISA but then globe-hopping because the 'rule of law' has become inconvenient. Certainly where the law is not being followed that should be fixed, and good on Snowden for noting that. But how can it be true that the same judiciary that issues warrants under the 4th Amendment cannot be trusted to run a fair trial? If the judiciary is untrustworthy then adding warrants to more spots in the NSA cannot fix the issue. So is that what Snowden wants, or does he want to prevent the government from even having the ability to monitor communications, even with a warrant?
Similarly, if Snowden is such a patriot I can't believe that he has putting himself, his brain, and all the TS that he's carrying or has access to within 100 miles of Russia. He's potentially one $5 wrench away from spilling a lot of TS, voluntarily or otherwise, to people who are not as kind as Assange and Greenwald.
I just don't know what to think about him anymore, and I think that's what is bugging me more than anything.
- tptacek 13y agoUltimately, Snowden probably doesn't know anything that China doesn't already know. (You couldn't say the same thing about the information Manning dumped, by the way). Regardless: I don't think his motives should have much to do with how the law treats him, which makes the concern over which countries he's choosing to visit even more of a sideshow. I think most rational observers understand why Snowden is picking the countries he's picking; he's choosing the large, easily reached countries with the weakest ties to US law enforcement. It's disingenuous to pretend that his arrival in Moscow is a commentary on Russian civil rights.
- corin_ 13y ago> You couldn't say the same thing about the information Manning dumped, by the way How far along the "normal to crazy conspiracy theory" line would it be to question whether, if people like Manning and Snowden can so easily leak this information, couldn't China already have got it themselves? I mean, if spying had reached that level... would we know about it?
- tptacek 13y agoThe problem in Manning's case wasn't China.
- corin_ 13y agoMy bad, I took your comment at word value rather than big picture. I didn't follow a huge amount of what Manning leaked, who were you referring to with "You couldn't say the same thing about the information Manning dumped, by the way"?