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If you're having non-technical product managers owning technical products you're asking for trouble. Since when did any non-technical product person become the

by gfody 13y ago

If you're having non-technical product managers owning technical products you're asking for trouble. Since when did any non-technical product person become the domain master go-to-guy for any technical product? I have seen product managers provide great leadership on technical products but they have always been supremely capable and the engineers respected them for it. Some product person with an inflated ego spinning buzzwords is not going to be respected by engineering and will not succeed in influencing them in any way. What you may think: I have been around engineers a long time and know the difference between NoSQL and MySQL. And there is no doubt that I would have been a great engineer if I had lerned to program, found it rewarding, and led a ton of open source projects. Anyone who seriously thinks this way is most likely hated by engineers and probably gets made fun of a lot behind his back.

bdehaaff 13y ago
Exactly, all of the "what you might think" points were exaggerated but not intended to be ridiculous. Great PM works and respects the value of what engineers can contribute during the plan AND build efforts.
- gfody 13y ago
  I think I am responding more to the way you have set the scene where we have non-technical product managers owning technical products. I think if this situation exists you've actually got a fucked company or at least some serious org-level trouble with the division of roles and responsibilities and probably not something you could fix by head-shrinking your product people. Actually it's funny if you think about it the only way non-technical product managers maintain their positions owning technical products is by finding such companies and actively partaking in all the what you may think behavior. Forgive me if this whole piece is intended as subtle irony in which case I say well done and humbly accept my swoosh.

by gfody 13y ago

bdehaaff 13y ago

Exactly, all of the "what you might think" points were exaggerated but not intended to be ridiculous. Great PM works and respects the value of what engineers can contribute during the plan AND build efforts.

gfody 13y ago
I think I am responding more to the way you have set the scene where we have non-technical product managers owning technical products. I think if this situation exists you've actually got a fucked company or at least some serious org-level trouble with the division of roles and responsibilities and probably not something you could fix by head-shrinking your product people. Actually it's funny if you think about it the only way non-technical product managers maintain their positions owning technical products is by finding such companies and actively partaking in all the what you may think behavior. Forgive me if this whole piece is intended as subtle irony in which case I say well done and humbly accept my swoosh.